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=?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
> 
> W dniu 05.03.2024 o 21:26, Thomas Heger pisze:
> > Am 29.02.2024 um 17:54 schrieb ProkaryoticCaspaseHomolog:
> >> Thomas Heger wrote:
> >>
> >>> The concept of time is actually based on counting events, about which
> >>> we assume, they would occur always with the same frequency.
> >>
> >>> That was the year or the day in ancient times and later the hour and
> >>> the second.
> >>
> >>> Much later men counted the waves in certain kinds of exitations of
> >>> certain atoms.
> >>
> >>> But in all cases a process of counting was meant, where the underlying
> >>> frequency was assumed to be universally constant.
> >>
> >>> But: that is problematic, because actually we don't know, whether
> >>> these frequencies are universally constant or not.
> >>
> >>> This is so, because the second is defined and measured by the same
> >>> process, which frequency we like to measure.
> >>
> >> This all comes down to the age-old question that has been repeatedly
> >> debated on these forums: What is a clock?
> >
> > A clock is an artifact (and does not show time).
> >
> > Clocks show a measure, which we humans interpret as date, hours, minutes
> > and seconds.
> >
> > But that's not time neither (it's a measure).
> 
> Wrong. Yes, that's - exactly  - time. Why not,
> doesn't match your mystical delusions? It's not
> obligged to.

if one clock is running slow,
and the other clock fast...
which one is the real time?

answer: neither one.


even a sundial does not have the real time...

yous people let clocks
run your life and yous don't even know
that the real time is?

oh, i'm late...i gotta go.

is 't' a number?


numbers don't exist.

-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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