Path: csiph.com!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: The Starmaker Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics Subject: Re: Nature Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2022 11:30:55 -0800 Organization: The Starmaker Organization Lines: 95 Message-ID: <6398D2EF.5F88@ix.netcom.com> References: <63962D85.72F4@ix.netcom.com> <639650B2.32B7@ix.netcom.com> <63969FFC.C7A@ix.netcom.com> <6396CA24.3CF9@ix.netcom.com> <63977C04.77BB@ix.netcom.com> Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: reader01.eternal-september.org; posting-host="8dfc5d2132e59e23fc5dc42d0d1727d1"; logging-data="2720941"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/dWxbMuAybFucWpUx8wKbc0TyH3LzG29o=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:wCD0tS14OXG4o7PTWBe3MAaXDkI= X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 221213-2, 12/13/2022), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) Xref: csiph.com sci.physics.relativity:597445 sci.physics:866112 whodat wrote: > > On 12/12/2022 1:07 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > whodat wrote: > >> > >> On 12/12/2022 12:28 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>> whodat wrote: > >>>> > >>>> On 12/11/2022 9:29 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>> whodat wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 12/11/2022 3:50 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>>>> Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 2022-12-11 19:20:37 +0000, The Starmaker said: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Nature > >>>>>>>>> spends > >>>>>>>>> a lot of time > >>>>>>>>> making sure > >>>>>>>>> your > >>>>>>>>> science > >>>>>>>>> your > >>>>>>>>> physics > >>>>>>>>> Your > >>>>>>>>> Laws > >>>>>>>>> match the universe. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> You've missed the point. The laws of nature have always been there. The > >>>>>>>> job of physicists (of whom I am not one) is to find them. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> There are no places in the Universe where these Laws exist, excepy only > >>>>>>> in the mind. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> You are wrong. Predictability of/in natural events (the sun will rise > >>>>>> tomorrow) proves that laws of nature exist. Put the bong away. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> You won't (another correct prediction of nature.) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> [...] > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> The sun does not rise or sets. > >>>> > >>>> Do you always have to be an asshole? > >>> > >>> > >>> The fact is...The sun does not rise or sets. > >> > >> Wonderful, now you're knowingly defending being an asshole who > >> is incapable of having a discussion in normal parlance. What is > >> this need you have for one upmanship? Are you the Mook the local > >> whops keep beating up for being a chooch? > >> > >> http://solar-center.stanford.edu/AO/sunrise.html > >> > >> Of course the sun doesn't rise and set, it looks that way to > >> humans who inhabit the earth and it is described and discussed > >> that way by normal humans; > > > > > > Well, this is about what people 'perceive' Laws of Nature are.. > > > > when you wrote "the sun will rise", I was wondering what Laws of Nature > > are there > > with "the sun will rise"...was it Sunrise Laws?, Sunst Laws??, Sunshine > > Laws? Sunny Laws?? I > > didn't know of any. But, > > you seem to be taking about...'people observations' from standing on the > > earth and > > looking at the sky...what law of nature is that one? Doesn't it DEPEND > > on your zipcode? > > > > Like for example: zipcode 995?? > > > > > > Maybe, just maybe...you have no idea the definition of 'Laws of Nature' > > mean. > > > > Does the Law apply everywhere, or just from your window at the funny > > farm where you live? > > ibid. In Alaska there are times they don't see a sunrise or a sunset. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.