Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!nntp.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: x Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design,sci.physics Subject: Re: For the first time light mimics a a Nobel Prize quantum effect Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2026 11:44:35 -0800 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 40 Message-ID: <10o7dn3$2almh$1@dont-email.me> References: <10o5v85$1q0g5$1@dont-email.me> <10o6m8p$20j6f$3@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2026 19:44:36 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="596a6f87768a724b440ef7c4ee07153a"; logging-data="2447057"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX181yipv4bSR0yXgqquC1zw7asZ+OpMw0VY=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.11.0 Cancel-Lock: sha1:WXQPyvGJqgVWCPTVvCQ8W/nJMYU= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <10o6m8p$20j6f$3@dont-email.me> Xref: csiph.com sci.electronics.design:741205 sci.physics:895302 On 3/3/26 05:04, Bill Sloman wrote: > On 3/03/2026 5:31 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote: >> For the first time, light mimics a Nobel Prize quantum effect >> Date: >>   March 1, 2026 >> Source: >>   Université de Montréal >> Summary: >>   Scientists have pulled off a feat long considered out of reach: >>   getting light to mimic the famous quantum Hall effect. >>   In their experiment, photons drift sideways in perfectly defined, >>   quantized steps—just like electrons do in powerful magnetic fields. >>   Because these steps depend only on nature’s fundamental constants, >>   they could become a new gold standard for ultra-precise measurements. >>   The discovery also hints at tougher, more reliable quantum photonic >> technologies. >> >> Link: >>   https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2026/02/260228093446.htm > > Nothing in the press release says anything about how big these quantised > steps are, let alone what determines the size of the steps. The original > paper > > https://journals.aps.org/prx/abstract/10.1103/2dyh-yhrb#fulltext > > isn't any more informative, though it does suggest that asking about the > physical size of the steps isn't quite the right question. > > The University of Montreal may have discovered something interesting, > but they've done a totally hopeless job of telling the world what it > might be good for. I think that electrons have a specific mass and charge. Same for protons. Basic question. Have the mass and charge of the electron and proton been clearly and coherently derived from the photoelectric effect? Could any of you provide links to web pages that show how this is calculated in as simple a manner as possible? >