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| Started by | carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2022-12-21 14:19 -0800 |
| Last post | 2023-01-13 16:12 -0800 |
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climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2022-12-21 14:19 -0800
Re: climate change Michelle Africano <nccr@amenica.he> - 2022-12-21 22:45 +0000
Re: climate change Michelle Africano <nccr@amenica.he> - 2022-12-21 22:54 +0000
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2022-12-22 09:49 -0800
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2022-12-22 10:07 -0800
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2022-12-22 11:08 -0800
Re: climate change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-12-22 12:59 -0800
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2022-12-22 13:05 -0800
Re: climate change Rico Amato <toaa@araocco.rt> - 2022-12-22 22:04 +0000
Re: climate change Rico Amato <toaa@araocco.rt> - 2022-12-22 22:14 +0000
Re: climate change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-12-22 14:26 -0800
Re: climate change Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2022-12-22 18:38 -0800
Re: climate change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-12-22 19:03 -0800
Re: climate change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-12-23 11:10 -0800
Re: climate change Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2022-12-23 13:48 -0800
Re: climate change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-12-23 15:30 -0800
Re: climate change Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2022-12-23 20:25 -0800
Re: climate change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-12-27 12:12 -0800
Re: climate change thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2022-12-27 15:41 -0800
Re: climate change thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2022-12-27 16:40 -0800
Re: climate change whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-12-27 21:10 -0600
Re: climate change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-12-28 12:24 -0800
Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-12-31 09:33 +0100
Re: climate change Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-12-31 00:44 -0800
Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-01 10:00 +0100
Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-12-28 07:56 +0100
Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-12-29 09:01 +0100
Re: climate change thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2022-12-29 16:38 -0800
Re: climate change thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2022-12-29 16:40 -0800
Re: climate change whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-12-29 18:54 -0600
Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-12-30 11:14 +0100
Re: climate change whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-12-30 10:57 -0600
Re: climate change thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2022-12-30 10:48 -0800
Re: climate change thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2022-12-30 11:01 -0800
Re: climate change thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2022-12-30 11:15 -0800
Re: climate change thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2022-12-30 11:57 -0800
Re: climate change thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2022-12-30 13:03 -0800
Re: climate change thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2022-12-30 14:40 -0800
Re: climate change thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2022-12-30 15:25 -0800
Re: climate change whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-12-30 19:02 -0600
Re: climate change whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-12-30 18:58 -0600
Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-12-31 09:09 +0100
Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-12-31 09:22 +0100
Re: climate change whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2022-12-31 15:42 -0600
Re: climate change thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2022-12-31 14:26 -0800
Re: climate change thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2022-12-31 14:43 -0800
Re: climate change thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2022-12-31 15:42 -0800
Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-01 09:43 +0100
Re: climate change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-01-01 16:49 -0800
Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-01 09:28 +0100
Re: climate change Doodnath Sarti <ttha@dnhnahan.nh> - 2023-01-01 08:49 +0000
Re: climate change whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-01-01 06:21 -0600
Re: climate change thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-01 15:56 -0800
Re: climate change thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-01 16:02 -0800
Re: climate change thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-01 16:19 -0800
Re: climate change Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-01-01 17:10 -0800
Re: climate change thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-01 17:56 -0800
Re: climate change Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-02 03:36 -0500
Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-03 07:36 +0100
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-03 12:24 -0800
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-03 12:27 -0800
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-03 13:30 -0800
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-03 13:46 -0800
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-03 13:48 -0800
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-03 17:14 -0800
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-03 17:29 -0800
Re: climate change Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-01-03 18:13 -0800
Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-04 10:12 +0100
Re: climate change Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-04 12:59 -0500
Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-05 07:40 +0100
Re: climate change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-01-04 11:17 -0800
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-04 11:49 -0800
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-04 14:40 -0800
Re: climate change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-01-05 14:40 -0800
Re: climate change Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-04 12:51 -0500
Re: climate change Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-01-04 23:06 -0600
Re: climate change whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-01-05 00:13 -0600
Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-05 08:01 +0100
Re: climate change Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-01-05 11:47 -0600
Re: climate change Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-01-05 10:17 -0800
Re: climate change whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-01-05 16:33 -0600
Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-07 09:42 +0100
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-07 15:21 -0800
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-07 15:47 -0800
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-07 15:58 -0800
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-07 16:04 -0800
Re: climate change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-01-07 18:31 -0800
Re: climate change Luigi Tumicelli <llei@cumiicli.lu> - 2023-01-08 13:47 +0000
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-08 15:16 -0800
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-08 16:49 -0800
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-08 17:09 -0800
Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-09 08:53 +0100
Re: climate change Luigi Tumicelli <llei@cumiicli.lu> - 2023-01-09 08:30 +0000
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-09 10:11 -0800
Re: climate change Luigi Tumicelli <llei@cumiicli.lu> - 2023-01-09 18:58 +0000
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-09 12:47 -0800
Re: climate change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-01-09 22:18 -0800
Re: climate change nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-01-10 15:49 +0100
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-10 10:58 -0800
Re: climate change nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-01-10 21:45 +0100
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-10 12:58 -0800
Re: climate change nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-01-10 22:12 +0100
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-10 14:26 -0800
Re: climate change Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-01-10 21:56 -0800
Re: climate change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-01-10 22:17 -0800
Re: climate change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-01-10 22:32 -0800
Re: climate change Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-11 01:34 -0500
Re: climate change Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-01-10 22:49 -0800
Re: climate change Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-11 12:44 -0500
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-11 10:53 -0800
Re: climate change Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-01-11 11:54 -0800
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-11 12:03 -0800
Re: climate change Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-01-11 12:39 -0800
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-11 14:21 -0800
Re: climate change nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-01-11 22:06 +0100
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-11 14:20 -0800
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-11 14:23 -0800
Re: climate change nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-01-12 10:23 +0100
Re: climate change Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-12 03:46 -0500
Re: climate change Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-01-12 00:58 -0800
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-12 16:53 -0800
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-12 17:07 -0800
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-12 15:02 -0800
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-12 15:09 -0800
Re: climate change whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-01-12 17:57 -0600
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-12 16:26 -0800
Re: climate change whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-01-12 18:32 -0600
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-12 17:23 -0800
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-12 17:31 -0800
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-12 18:06 -0800
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-12 18:12 -0800
Re: climate change Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-01-12 19:20 -0800
Re: climate change Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-13 11:39 -0500
Re: climate change whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-01-12 20:44 -0600
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-12 18:52 -0800
Re: climate change Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-13 04:06 -0500
Re: climate change Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-01-13 01:20 -0800
Re: climate change Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-13 12:04 -0500
Re: climate change Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-01-13 10:20 -0800
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-13 12:11 -0800
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-13 12:23 -0800
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-13 12:27 -0800
Re: climate change Kobie Locatelli <be@cliietik.oo> - 2023-01-15 11:38 +0000
Re: climate change Kobie Locatelli <be@cliietik.oo> - 2023-01-15 13:23 +0000
Re: climate change whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-01-15 13:14 -0600
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-15 13:10 -0800
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-15 13:14 -0800
Re: climate change Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-01-15 14:48 -0800
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-15 16:44 -0800
Re: climate change nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-01-16 17:44 +0100
Re: climate change Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-01-16 12:36 -0800
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-16 13:31 -0800
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-16 13:39 -0800
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-16 14:19 -0800
Re: climate change Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-17 00:55 -0500
Re: climate change Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-01-16 22:24 -0800
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-17 09:58 -0800
Re: climate change Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-17 13:16 -0500
Re: climate change Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-01-17 10:58 -0800
Re: climate change Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-18 16:55 -0500
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-19 12:07 -0800
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-19 12:11 -0800
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-19 12:18 -0800
Re: climate change whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-01-19 15:18 -0600
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-19 13:51 -0800
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-19 13:52 -0800
Re: climate change whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-01-19 18:47 -0600
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-20 10:23 -0800
Re: climate change Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-20 14:47 -0500
Re: climate change Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-01-20 21:36 -0800
Re: climate change whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-01-20 14:14 -0600
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-20 12:22 -0800
Re: climate change whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-01-20 19:40 -0600
Re: climate change Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-21 01:54 -0500
Re: climate change nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-01-21 20:35 +0100
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-21 15:26 -0800
Re: climate change whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-01-21 21:46 -0600
Re: climate change nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-01-22 12:08 +0100
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 13:37 -0800
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 13:39 -0800
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 13:39 -0800
Re: climate change nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-01-23 23:10 +0100
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 13:45 -0800
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 13:50 -0800
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 13:52 -0800
Re: climate change Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-23 17:24 -0500
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 14:35 -0800
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 14:37 -0800
Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-24 08:48 +0100
Re: climate change Faustino Biondo <uinn@bfotboia.nt> - 2023-01-25 19:40 +0000
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-26 16:40 -0800
Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-27 08:17 +0100
Re: climate change Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-27 14:31 -0500
Re: climate change nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-01-28 14:08 +0100
Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-30 07:35 +0100
Re: climate change Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-01-30 07:38 -0600
Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-31 09:34 +0100
Re: climate change nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-01-31 13:19 +0100
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-02-03 11:13 -0800
Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-02-03 21:49 +0100
Re: climate change Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-02-03 19:23 -0800
Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-02-04 21:10 +0100
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-02-05 12:06 -0800
Re: climate change Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-02-05 22:06 -0800
Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-02-09 08:54 +0100
Re: climate change Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-02-09 08:57 -0800
Re: climate change whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-01-23 16:55 -0600
Re: climate change Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 16:52 -0800
Re: climate change carl eto <carleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 17:36 -0800
Re: climate change Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 18:39 -0800
Re: climate change nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-01-23 23:10 +0100
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-17 09:57 -0800
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-17 10:28 -0800
Re: climate change Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-17 16:20 -0500
Re: climate change Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-01-18 00:10 -0800
Re: climate change Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-18 16:57 -0500
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-19 11:57 -0800
Re: climate change nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-01-16 23:25 +0100
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-16 15:40 -0800
Re: climate change Edurardo De felice <eduu@eiudece.co> - 2023-01-17 13:49 +0000
Re: climate change nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-01-11 10:36 +0100
Re: climate change Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-01-11 02:09 -0800
Re: climate change nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-01-11 10:36 +0100
Re: climate change Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-01-11 02:06 -0800
Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-11 11:29 +0100
Re: climate change Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-11 13:00 -0500
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-11 10:44 -0800
Re: climate change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-01-11 11:17 -0800
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-11 10:51 -0800
Re: climate change whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-01-11 14:36 -0600
Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-12 08:09 +0100
Re: climate change Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-12 03:55 -0500
Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-13 08:11 +0100
Re: climate change nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-01-13 13:12 +0100
Re: climate change Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-01-13 04:41 -0800
Re: climate change nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-01-13 16:11 +0100
Re: climate change Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-01-13 08:54 -0800
Re: climate change nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-01-13 21:52 +0100
Re: climate change Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-13 11:21 -0500
Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-14 09:54 +0100
Re: climate change Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2023-01-14 10:07 +0100
Re: climate change Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-01-14 12:03 -0800
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Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-15 08:11 +0100
Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-10 07:18 +0100
Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-02 08:06 +0100
Re: climate change Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-01-02 10:22 -0600
Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-03 07:27 +0100
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Re: climate change Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-01-01 20:24 -0600
Re: climate change whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-01-01 19:27 -0600
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Re: climate change Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-01-01 21:29 -0600
Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-02 08:28 +0100
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Re: climate change whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-01-01 19:26 -0600
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Re: climate change "kellehe...@gmail.com" <kelleher.gerald@gmail.com> - 2022-12-23 01:59 -0800
Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-12-28 08:10 +0100
Re: climate change thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> - 2022-12-28 11:34 -0800
Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-12-29 08:45 +0100
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Re: climate change Santos Anselmetti <ttln@niitstsm.sa> - 2022-12-28 23:33 +0000
Re: climate change Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-01-05 20:08 +1100
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-05 16:17 -0800
Re: climate change Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-01-06 08:11 +0100
Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-06 11:29 -0800
Re: climate change The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-01-06 11:30 -0800
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Re: climate change carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> - 2023-01-13 16:12 -0800
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| From | Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> |
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| Date | 2023-01-14 10:07 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <k2f9mlFtvkmU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #599582 |
On 2023-01-14 08:54:42 +0000, Thomas Heger said: > Am 13.01.2023 um 17:21 schrieb Volney: > >>>>> No. What we see today does not reflect any reality, neither now nor >>>>> from any time in the past, because the pictures are not only old, but >>>>> also of different age. >>>> >>>> It doesn't matter. The constellations are determined by what you see >>>> when you go outside and look. No matter how old the light is. >>> >>> >>> ????? >>> >>> If you are not an astrologist, you wouldn't care that much about >>> constellations. >>> >>> Everybody knows, that e.g. 'The Great Bear' is not really a bear but a >>> picture in the night sky, which is made from stars of different depth >>> in space. >> >> >> Exactly. Most constellations are just random patterns caused by the >> happenstance relative positions of stars in space and time. >> >> I don't know why you and Carl make a big deal over that. > > > I wanted to insist on the character of the pictures in the night sky as > 'not real'. > > The pictures we see do not reflect reality, because the pictures stem > from stars, which partically do not exist anymore and which all are now > at different positions then where we see them. > > So: the night sky shows pictures from the past, which are also layered in time. > > This is important to know, because some cosmological concepts such as? > would require to know the positions of stars at the same time but at > different depth in space. > > But we do not have these posistion, because we cannot wait millions of > years for the pictures from further away. > > This is a serious problem for cosmologists, Have you talked to any cosmologists about this? Do they agree that it is a serious problem? > which cannot be solved by taking the apparent positions, which we see > today here on Earth. > > We can't, because interactions between celestial objects would most > likely depend on temporal coexistence of these objects. > > > TH -- Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 36+ years; mainly in England until 1987.
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| From | Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-01-14 12:03 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <9628d832-adcb-49cc-9bdb-6f0ce7ec043an@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #599582 |
On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 12:54:50 AM UTC-8, Thomas Heger wrote: > The pictures we see do not reflect reality, because the pictures stem > from stars, which partically do not exist anymore and which all are now > at different positions then where we see them. > > So: the night sky shows pictures from the past, which are also layered > in time. > > This is important to know, because some cosmological concepts would > require to know the positions of stars at the same time but at different > depth in space. So, which cosmological concepts would those be, exactly? I believe that you are simply making this up...
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| From | carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-01-14 12:24 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <b084ac6b-790b-4424-8706-84bae002f1een@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #599602 |
Climate Change The effect of once-through cooled nuclear, coal and natural gas power plants on the climate is analyzed. The fuel of a nuclear plant is pure metallic uranium that is radioactive, carcinogenic and, in large quantities, unstable. Uranium 238U is a silvery metal that is melted into small cylindrical pellets (approximately 3/8-inch in diameter and 5/8-inch in length) that are inserted into a 12 ft hollow steel tube where 226 tubes filled with uranium pellets are stacked to form a uranium fuel rod (750 lb). In a nuclear reactor core, 200 uranium fuel rods (75 tons) are used to produces the power of a nuclear power plant. In a once-through cooled nuclear reactor water is pumped into the interior of the core to cool the rods then the heated water is discharged into the environment where 1.2 million gallons of heated water (+20o F) is discharged into the water source each day. The 390 million gallons of heated water produced daily from the world’s 326 once-through cooled nuclear power plants is being discharged into rivers, lakes, and oceans. In addition, 940 coal power plants also use the once-through cooling system where daily approximately 1.2 billion gallons of heated water (+20o F) is discharged into the water source. Natural gas power plants that are using the once-through cooling system add approximately 1.3 billion gallons of heated water (+20o F) into the water source. “Supporters of nuclear power like to argue that nukes are the key to combating climate change. Here’s why they are dead wrong. Every nuclear generating station spew about two-thirds of the energy it burns inside its reactor core into the environment. Only one-third is converted into electricity. Another tenth of that is lost in transmission……..Every day, large reactors like the two at Diablo Canyon, California, individually dump about 1.25 million gallons of water into the ocean at temperatures up to 20 degrees Fahrenheit warmer than the natural environment. Diablo’s “once-through cooling system” takes water out of the ocean and dumps it back superheated, irradiated and laden with toxic chemicals. Many U.S. reactors use cooling towers which emit huge quantities of steam and water vapor that also directly warm the atmosphere.” (Wasserman). “IAEA figures show 45% of nuclear plants use the sea for once-through cooling, 15% use lakes, 14% rivers, and 26% use cooling towers.” https://world-nuclear.org/information-library/current-and-future-generation/cooling-power-plants.aspx Global warming is said to be caused by the greenhouse effect of CO2 but the heat capacity of air (CP = 700 J⋅kg−1⋅K−1) has not significantly increased in the last 100 years, and only .04% of the Earth’s atmosphere is composed of CO2. In addition, the greenhouse effect represents heat that is trapped in the Earth’s atmosphere but the outer edge of the Earth’s atmosphere is open and does not trap heat. It is argued that infrared light is reflected by the outer atmosphere of the Earth but there is not a physical barrier that can reflected the infrared light that is said to be causing the greenhouse gas effect where in a glass greenhouse the glass reflects the infrared light which is said to be causing the greenhouse gas effect by the outer atmospheric reflective surface is not present; consequently, scientist state that the increase of the atmospheric temperature due to climate change is cause by the CO2 absorbing infrared light while the Sun light is propagating through the atmosphere and reflected by the ground but experimentally, increasing the CO2 in a small glass greenhouse to 3,000 ppm does not increase the temperature difference (400 ppm/3,000ppm) using an infrared heater and small fans yet one would expect a five degrees temperature differential which is not experimentally observed which invalidate the greenhouse gas theory. The thermodynamic pollution produced by the nuclear power plants’ cooling pools (120o F) that are cooling the depleted uranium fuel rods are also discharged into the environment. A single nuclear reactor core contains 75 tons of uranium fuel rods that are heated to the temperature of 400o F and the depleted uranium is heating the cooling pool water to a temperature of 120o F. In the last 50 years, the world’s 1,320 reactors have produced 1.2 tons of depleted uranium (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depleted_uranium) which is equivalent to (1.2 x 106 tons) / 75 tons = 16,000 reactors……………………………………………………1 Using the half-life of new (4.5 billion years) and the half-life of depleted uranium (700 million years), the capacity of depleted uranium is approximated, (.700 billion yr / 4.5 billion yr) = .17 or 17 % capacity……..................................................2 The depleted uranium would produce thermodynamic pollution (heated water) equivalent to, (1 /.7) x (16,000 reactors) x .17 = 3,886 once-through cooled nuclear reactors.................3 operating at 70% capacity discharging 4,663 million gallons heated water (+20o F) into the rivers, lakes and oceans. Until 1993, it was common practice by the Europeans, USA, Russians and the Japanese to dissemble the fuel rods and stored the depleted uranium pellets in steel barrels then dumped the barrels into the ocean. “By 1991, the US had dropped more than 90,000 barrels and at least 190,000 cubic meters of radioactive waste in the North Atlantic and Pacific. Other countries including Belgium, France, Switzerland and the Netherlands also disposed of tons of radioactive waste in the North Atlantic in the 1960s, 70s and 80s.” (Schauenberg). In an attempt to store the depleted uranium (DU) without using cooling pools, a dry cask storage system of uranium fuel rods was developed where 37 depleted uranium rods are stack together (fig 1) and encased in concrete and steel (dry cask) to minimize the storage space of the fuel rods but the high concentration of uranium in the depleted uranium fuel rods would not allow the bundling of 37 rods since the deplete uranium rods are hot (120o F) and highly radioactive. The uranium fuel rods were removed from the reactors that were functioning at 17% capacity just before the refueling; consequently, the 37 rods within a concrete and steel cask would meltdown without a cooling system. Also, the cooling of the spent fuel rods in the cooling pools does not eliminate the radioactivity and the ability of the 700-million-year half-life DU fuel rods to heat up and melt. “Water circulates through the pool, helping keep the rods cool and the pool temperature at around 49 °C (120 °F)……..Without water, the spent fuel rods would jump in temperature, reaching 1,000 °C, according to NRC and DOE laboratory studies” (J. Johnson). “Reactor pool specifications generally call for fuel pool temperatures of <120°F (40°C) with full heat exchange capacity <150°F (66°C) with one heat exchanger and aged fuel and 212°F (100°C) with freshly discharged fuel and loss of heat exchange capacity. However, there are no reports that pool temperatures have approached 100°C. The maximum actual pool temperature reported in the survey was 49°C.” (A. Johnson). The worlds 320 once-through nuclear reactors heated water, byproduct depleted uranium, 4,201 coal and natural gas once-through power plant are dumping a total of 3.5 trillions gallons of heated water (+ 20 degree F) daily in the rivers, lakes and oceans is causing climate change. Johnson, Jr., A. B. Behavior of Spent Nuclear Fuel in Water Pool storage. DOE. 1977. https://www.osti.gov/servlets/purl/7284014 Johnson, Jeff. Nuclear Regulatory Commission to reexamine how to safely store a mountain of radioactive waste for decades to come. c&en chemical and engineering news. Vol 91, Issue 44. 2013. Schauenberg, Tim. Fukushima: How the Ocean became a Dumping Ground for Radioactive Waste. DW—Made for Minds. 2020.
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| From | carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-01-14 12:26 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <e5fd1263-089a-4afa-a945-bd716090b6d3n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #599602 |
The Big Bang expansion theory is based on the stars of the stellar universe that are in motion but the shapes of the constellations have not changed since the inception of photography (140 years). The length of the handle of the Big Dipper has not increased or decreased nor has the position of the legs of Cirrus changed, in the last 140 years. The red shift is used to justify the Big Bang expansion theory but every star at different times form both red and blue shifts since the stars are stationary. When an observer on the surface of the Earth propagates towards a star, the blue shift is produced and when the observer propagates away from the star, the red shift is observed. The stellar red and blue shifts are formed by the Earth's daily and yearly motions affect on the observer viewing stationary stars, from the surface of the Earth, which contradicts the Big Bang theory that stars are in motion (expanding).
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2023-01-15 08:11 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <k2hn8uFaphqU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #599602 |
Am 14.01.2023 um 21:03 schrieb Paul Alsing: > On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 12:54:50 AM UTC-8, Thomas Heger wrote: > >> The pictures we see do not reflect reality, because the pictures stem >> from stars, which partically do not exist anymore and which all are now >> at different positions then where we see them. >> >> So: the night sky shows pictures from the past, which are also layered >> in time. >> >> This is important to know, because some cosmological concepts would >> require to know the positions of stars at the same time but at different >> depth in space. > > So, which cosmological concepts would those be, exactly? I believe that you are simply making this up... > For instance the formation of galaxies requires gravitiy (according to standard cosmology). But the glaxies are huge, hence their diameter is in terms of time measures millions of (light) years. But we would need the postions of all the stars at the same time, to figure out gravitational interactions. But we don't know the positions, because we would need ot wait a long time, before the signals from the far end of our galaxy had reached us, while we know the star postions from the close end much earlier. The problem is, that temproral relations of stellar interactions need to be different for gravity than how we perceive the galaxy here on Earth today. We could use computers to transform our observations to actual positions of stars at some instance in time in the past. But, unfortunately, this is very difficult, because we do not have the needed information at the same time. To get a set of star positions for all stars of our gallaxy at least once, we would need to wait a time which is long enough to let a beam of light pass from one end of the galaxy to the other. Only: that duration is VERY long. To overcome this problem in cosmology, the positions of stars at different times are related by gravity, what doesn't look like a good idea for me. TH
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2023-01-10 07:18 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <k24e99F98t5U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #599289 |
Am 09.01.2023 um 09:30 schrieb Luigi Tumicelli: > Thomas Heger wrote: > >> Am 08.01.2023 um 14:47 schrieb Luigi Tumicelli: >> >>> this gay mazafaka is bigger than hitler. >>> https://s2.cdnstatic.space/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/Screenshot_1-4.jpg >> >> This photo looks very 'photoshopped'. You can see this at the unnatural >> looking necks. (similar to this one >> https://www.kurier.de/media.media.0ded2978-6bc0-48aa-bd92-08bed1cbdf2b.original1024.jpg > > yes, I was thinking, but remember the _four_aces_kiev_visit_, germany, > france, italy and romania, months ago. Undeniable, the gay actor was in > front of them many times. It looks like he is fucked up now, all the > stupid nazis fighting his war left, or are dead. > Today you cannot trust photos anymore, because AI is getting so perfect in faking whatever you like. You need independent proof, that Szelinsky exists in the first place and that the presidents of western nations have visited Kiev. I would say: to visit Kiev today is quite dangerous, because there is (allegedly) a war. But heads of nations should not visit active war zones, because they could eventually be targeted by enemy forces or even captured alive. This would cause mayor calamities, hence presidents should not go to Kiev today. I was quite surprised, that Boris Johnson visited Kiev and could not actually believe he did, because it is REALLY stupid for a British prime minister to visit an active war zone, where Britans are among the enemies of the enemy. Therefore: the validity of such pictures is very questionable, because such a meeting would violate very important principles of security for the head of the state. Hence: unless proven independently, I would have doubts about the authenticy of these pictures. TH
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2023-01-02 08:06 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <k1fe4aFgqmhU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #598820 |
Am 02.01.2023 um 02:10 schrieb Paul Alsing: > On Sunday, January 1, 2023 at 4:19:51 PM UTC-8, thor stoneman wrote: > >> Your statement is violating common sense since radio waves are not emitting light, X-rays or gamma rays (photons). > > Perhaps you should actually learn just what a photon is before just guessing... > > https://www.symmetrymagazine.org/article/what-is-a-photon#:~:text=Radio%20waves%20and%20microwaves%3B%20infrared,at%20work%20all%20around%20you. > > "Radio waves and microwaves; infrared and ultraviolet light; X-rays and gamma rays: All of these are light, and all of them are made up of photons." > > I think, that 'what is a photon' is quite a good question. But I do not agree to most answers and think, that photos can turn into electrons and vice versa. It goes like this: A photon is kind of wave packet and can be emitted from atoms. Now photons have a helical structure and electrons circle around a core. These circles could be 'stretched' and turn an electron into a helical wave packet (aka photon). The other way round is also thinkable, when such a packet smashes against something, what compresses the packet to a circle again, what turns light into electrons. Therefore, electron and photon have essentially the same structure, but one is part of an atom and one in motion. From this would follow, that photons and electrons are not real lasting entities, but part of larger and more complex structures and can only pop up occasionally in the form of light or charge. About atoms themselves I assume, that electron and proton are in fact one thing and build together a structure of a standing rotation wave. These structures have occasionally the form of a so called 'tri-foil-knot' where these foils build what is called 'quarks'. So, in fact, particles are parts of larger structures and pop up in different forms and unpredictable places and are not real, lasting and separate entities. They are therefore not defined by realness or separation, but by their particular form, which is a helical screw in case of a photon. TH
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| From | Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> |
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| Date | 2023-01-02 10:22 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <qvudnTLmDLdLmS7-nZ2dnZfqlJ9h4p2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #598855 |
On 1/2/23 1:06 AM, Thomas Heger wrote: > A photon is kind of wave packet [...] No. Not even close. Just making stuff up like that is USELESS. A photon is an excitation of the (quantum) electromagnetic field. Tom Roberts
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2023-01-03 07:27 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <k1i069Ft014U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #598878 |
Am 02.01.2023 um 17:22 schrieb Tom Roberts: > On 1/2/23 1:06 AM, Thomas Heger wrote: >> A photon is kind of wave packet [...] > > No. Not even close. Just making stuff up like that is USELESS. > > A photon is an excitation of the (quantum) electromagnetic field. > I renamed that to 'structured spacetime', what is essentailly the same idea, but has a wider range of applicability. I had written kind of 'book' about this concept, which can be found here: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Ur3_giuk2l439fxUa8QHX4wTDxBEaM6lOlgVUa0cFU4/edit?usp=sharing The idea to connect GR and QM is relatively simple: equate spacetime of GR and 'excited quantum field' of QM. TH
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| From | Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> |
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| Date | 2023-01-02 10:43 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <uRGdnQ8OHdA_lC7-nZ2dnZfqlJ9h4p2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #598855 |
On 1/2/23 1:06 AM, Thomas Heger wrote: > A photon is kind of wave packet [...] No. Not even close. Just making stuff up like that is USELESS. A photon is an excitation of the (quantum) electromagnetic field. Tom Roberts
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| From | carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-01-02 14:54 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <67af8589-eb93-41d7-a299-1962e76c8465n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #598882 |
This is wrong. Diffraction minima are caused by an absence of photons, not "destruction" of any. So then we would not need an em field?
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| From | carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-01-02 14:57 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <70132ebf-fb80-41b6-8a47-95e046c50ffen@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #598882 |
A photon is an excitation of the (quantum) electromagnetic field. but an expanding em field cannot form a particle structure of a photon. Why is that so difficult to understand?
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| From | carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-01-02 15:03 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <294c0d73-dd06-483b-bec7-220de59a3b60n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #598910 |
While those EM radiations are not VISIBLE light, they are still modeled using photons, which are the gauge boson of the electromagnetic field. and I thought light was visible!
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| From | carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-01-02 15:10 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <24acfa6d-5554-4b54-bf67-26831974b686n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #598910 |
You are probably right that climate change is caused by clouds but what is causing the excessive amount of cloud formation. I would say nuclear power plants once-through cooling systems and the thermodynamics pollution dumped into the oceans from the cooling pools which is increasing the ocean temperature and causing the excessive amount of cloud formation.
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| From | carl eto <ccarleto4157990662@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-01-02 17:29 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <d20284cc-8a98-4da8-999d-836889f1ce92n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #598913 |
B = B. cos (kz - wt)i E = E. cos (kz - wt)j These electromagnetic wave equations are also physically invalid since the constant magnitude of the electric and magnetic maximum amplitudes imply that an electromagnetic field does not expand but radio wave expands which is experimental proof the said em wave equations are physically invalid.
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| From | thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-01-01 16:20 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <b17cb373-14ec-46be-a2bb-5b51a43e804an@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #598806 |
On Sunday, January 1, 2023 at 4:02:39 PM UTC-8, thor stoneman wrote: > "No. Electromagnetic waves are photons. Each is akin to a soliton. It keeps going through space without dissipating. What people think of as expanding radio waves consist of lots of photons emitted in all directions." > > Your statement is violating common sense since radio waves are not emitting light (photons). Also, remember when depict diffraction, the destruction of wave-particle photons to form the dark fringes of the diffraction effect violates energy conservation.
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| From | Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> |
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| Date | 2023-01-01 20:24 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <Q4idnSN9pMX53S_-nZ2dnZfqlJxg4p2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #598811 |
On 1/1/23 6:20 PM, thor stoneman wrote: > when depict diffraction, the destruction of wave-particle photons to > form the dark fringes of the diffraction effect violates energy > conservation. This is wrong. Diffraction minima are caused by an absence of photons, not "destruction" of any. Energy is conserved, because the photons are simply directed into diffraction maxima. You really should learn something about the subject before attempting to write about it. Tom Roberts
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| From | whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> |
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| Date | 2023-01-01 19:27 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <k1eq85Fdu4aU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #598806 |
On 1/1/2023 6:02 PM, thor stoneman wrote: > "No. Electromagnetic waves are photons. Each is akin to a soliton. It keeps going through space without dissipating. What people think of as expanding radio waves consist of lots of photons emitted in all directions." > > Your statement is violating common sense since radio waves are not emitting light (photons). Once again, whose statements?
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| From | thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-01-01 18:02 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <5335b5f2-8dd5-458a-ac86-13efa8253b4fn@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #598828 |
On Sunday, January 1, 2023 at 5:10:09 PM UTC-8, Paul Alsing wrote: "Radio waves and microwaves; infrared and ultraviolet light; X-rays and gamma rays: All of these are light, and all of them are made up of photons." (A joint Fermilab/SLAC publication). https://www.symmetrymagazine.org/articl ... ound%20you This statement does not make any sense since radio waves, microwaves, X-rays and gamma rays are not emitting light (the stuff that you can see in the dark).
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| From | thor stoneman <consequently7990662@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-01-01 18:20 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <226709ce-641e-412d-ab7c-b80902eb547fn@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #598835 |
“To solve a problem you need to know the cause of the problem. Otherwise, you will never solve the problem.” (Me). This correct and very important! The main issue with CO2, that concentrating all energies on this substance would cause, that all other issues were not covered. But if CO2 is 'barking up the wrong tree', than absolutely nothing would happen, if we reduce CO2. This by itself wouldn't be dangerous, only a waste of money, time and efforts. But if something else does in fact cause the real trouble in the mean time and the real problems receive no attention, then wrong activities for an extended time can cause severe trouble. (Dr. Thomas Heger, Harvard PhD physics).
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