Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Thomas Heger Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity,sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: energy and mass Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2026 11:57:11 +0100 Lines: 105 Message-ID: References: <10nf85a$270rk$3@dont-email.me> <1rqze29.h77dsi1a6udn3N%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> <1rr05ll.1jn4i8x1fomud5N%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> <8rWdneOlnqgd2AD0nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com> <1rr17cq.1xkdpzfr87v79N%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> <10nm0mc$fshe$3@dont-email.me> <1rr31mw.4nll90d8sl1lN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> <10nomum$1co15$1@dont-email.me> <1rr4tn1.1w93c9h1iqg7fgN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> <1897d2730a1a0205$447653$71155$c2065a8b@news.newsdemon.com> <10nup5d$3c2s4$2@dont-email.me> <10o11j9$3pb4$1@dont-email.me> <10o6jb9$20j6f$1@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net RD7IL4A+BtQotn8DBgJYkApLxMPD02VYHgRiTm4LRiE8UbobfQ Cancel-Lock: sha1:f9iljdW9oFd0NRFgM0q90grndZI= sha256:yqfyA2VCC3sdSEhjoPl51RqhQGpM/qO4VLPrlAhwuhU= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: de-DE, en-US In-Reply-To: <10o6jb9$20j6f$1@dont-email.me> Xref: csiph.com sci.physics.relativity:669464 sci.electronics.design:741229 Am Dienstag000003, 03.03.2026 um 13:14 schrieb Bill Sloman: ... >>>>>>>>> Time is a universal parameter of most theories of mechanics, >>>>>>>>> and the useful ones. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Too bad for most theories of mechanics; too >>>>>>>> bad for your moronic physics. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Time is a universal _absolute_ parameter. >>>>>> >>>>>> What you actually mean is 'universal'. >>>>>> >>>>>> You have, for some odd reasons, the idea that the entire universe >>>>>> must be universally synchronized. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> About space-contraction as length-contraction and >>>>>>> time-dilation together, has that clocks "slow" or >>>>>>> "meet" about differences between "space-contraction-linear" >>>>>>> and "space-contraction-rotational", breaking out the >>>>>>> "space-contraction" as "-linear" and "-rotational" >>>>>>> instead of "length-contraction" and "time-dilation". >>>>>> >>>>>> Even stranger is, that clocks and time are used interchangeable. >>>>> >>>>> A clock is something that documents the passage of time in the >>>>> space where the clock is located. Nobody is going to confuse the >>>>> ruler used to measure distance with the distance measured. >>>>> >>>>>> But a clock is a man-made device, while time is a natural >>>>>> phenomenon and not supposed to depend on clocks (because nature is >>>>>> not man-made). >>>>> >>>>> Why would anybody think that? >>>> >>>> Einstein wrote something like 'time is what clocks say'. >>>> >>>> And I had rejected this idea, because it would in effect exchange >>>> the natural phenomenon with the reading of a measuring device. >>>> >>>> I regard physical quantities as attributes of some system or object, >>>> while measuring devices are man-made objects, which belong to the >>>> realm of the observer. >>> >>> But clocks can make much more accurate and finer-grained observations >>> than any merely human observer ever could. >>> >>> Time is what clocks observe - for us - and in that sense Einstein is >>> absolutely correct. We've still got to read the clock before it's >>> measurements mean anything. >>> >> >> Sure, but clocks are necessarily local! >> >> Any clock and any observer needs to be somewhere. >> >> And most observers we know about live on planet Earth. >> >> So, let's assume that the surface of planet Earth is actually a 'time >> bubble' (actually I used the term 'time domain'). > > Why on earth would we want to do that? Please have a look at my 'book': https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Ur3_giuk2l439fxUa8QHX4wTDxBEaM6lOlgVUa0cFU4/edit?usp=sharing This is not really a book, but a presentation I made 16 years ago. The idea behind it, that I wanted to find a connection between GR and QM, but wanted to start at the side of GR. My aim was therefore to create particles out of spacetime. This concept is called 'structured spacetime'. In this concept we have not just one single time, but multiple local times. The set of points, which use the same ti´me are called a 'time domain'. And because we live upon the surface of planet Earth and use UTC, we live in the same 'time domain'. > >> This realm is the space, in which we as human beings usually live. >> >> What is happenign outside of this realm is more or less unknown. >> >> But we have hints already, that time behaves in strange ways, if the >> universe is observed from very remote locations (like e.g. by the >> Pioneer probe). >> >> (This btw was my personal explanation for the so called 'Pioneer anomaly' > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pioneer_anomaly > > That wasn't "time" behaving in a strange way, it was a very small > unexpected deceleration of the space craft, which turns out to > explicable in terms of the asymmetric thermal radiation from the > radioisotope thermoelectric generator. Sure, but 'unexpected acceleration' looks pretty much like 'time behaving in a strange way'.