Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: The Starmaker Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics Subject: Re: S paceTime Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2025 21:50:56 -0800 Organization: The Starmaker Organization Lines: 128 Message-ID: <67A1AAC0.624F@ix.netcom.com> References: <67A0465F.1394@ix.netcom.com> <1820a0e7fb2444bf$15299$1433769$c2065a8b@news.newsdemon.com> <67A072A1.4890@ix.netcom.com> <1820ae376b46d694$13020$1427260$c2365abb@news.newsdemon.com> <67A10C50.3153@ix.netcom.com> <1820c709d718ea16$13041$1427260$c2365abb@news.newsdemon.com> <67A11070.5121@ix.netcom.com> <1820ca3af637642c$10679$1417112$c2265aab@news.newsdemon.com> <67A12A10.2A78@ix.netcom.com> <1820d0d57014da41$10681$1417112$c2265aab@news.newsdemon.com> <67A13FC6.25E2@ix.netcom.com> <1820d33f2e981c00$15766$1407297$c2565adb@news.newsdemon.com> <67A17706.484A@ix.netcom.com> Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2025 06:50:55 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="277c3691c95fdebe884ebfb7a4788a15"; logging-data="1835369"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19uxr/XVPoJzBx2VvBJfbZI6dClAG/P3hs=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:ftBdBYeGLARFKqbDQafi0sIDy2E= X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 250203-4, 02/03/2025), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Xref: csiph.com sci.physics.relativity:660986 sci.physics:891102 The Starmaker wrote: > > Maciej Wozniak wrote: > > > > W dniu 03.02.2025 o 23:14, The Starmaker pisze: > > > Maciej Wozniak wrote: > > >> > > >> W dniu 03.02.2025 o 21:41, The Starmaker pisze: > > >>> Maciej Wozniak wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> W dniu 03.02.2025 o 19:52, The Starmaker pisze: > > >>>>> Maciej Wozniak wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> W dniu 03.02.2025 o 19:34, The Starmaker pisze: > > >>>>>>> Maciej Wozniak wrote: > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> W dniu 03.02.2025 o 08:39, The Starmaker pisze: > > >>>>>>>>> Maciej Wozniak wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> W dniu 03.02.2025 o 05:30, The Starmaker pisze: > > >>>>>>>>>>> Okay, here is the Truth. SpaceTime does not exist. > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Newton would say..."I never heard of it, or thought it!" > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> It's just a madeup thing. > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> So, what is spacetime? it's a math thing > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> It is not. The Shit's worshippers like to > > >>>>>>>>>> pretend their shit is math, to improve > > >>>>>>>>>> its authority. > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> , and math is not science. > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> It is. > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> There is Space...but there are no straight lines in space. > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> There are. > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Do cats walk a straight line? > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> On a short distance, sometimes. > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Can you point to me a straight line out there in space? a photo of it > > >>>>>>>>> maybe?? anywhere in space or another planet?? > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> A photo - why not. > > >>>>>>>> https://www.istockphoto.com/pl/search/2/image-film?phrase=ruler > > >>>>>>>> the edges of those rulers are straight lines. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> I said "out there in space", not man made straight lines..Nature's > > >>>>>>> straight lines. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Are there any Nature's Straight Lines anywhere out there in space, or > > >>>>>>> Earth if you prefer. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> https://www.istockphoto.com/pl/search/2/image-film?phrase=ruler > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Not perfectly straight, but straight enough for me. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Straight lines are an invention of...Man. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> To put it simply...Does Nature make straight lines? > > >>>> > > >>>> Sure it does. Not any perfect ones, of course. > > >>>> Nothing is perfect in the real world. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Can you point to me any of Nature's Straight Lines anywhere out there in > > >>> space, or > > >>> on Earth if you prefer??? a photo of it? > > >> > > >> Sure. > > >> https://www.nationalgeographic.com/books/article/7-us-national-parks-with-incredible-trees > > >> My mistake, it should be that link instead repeating the ruler, > > >> sorry. > > > > > > > > > > > > You're looking at the forrest, not the Red Wood trees itself > > > > > > In a perspective, everything comes to a point, it's just an illusion. > > > > > > https://media.istockphoto.com/id/1309780034/photo/detail-of-a-redwood-tree-trunk.jpg?s=1024x1024&w=is&k=20&c=CeIReGghlUOJiAAqu-kbZPG1PVEKXIyM9Zn6McPPTgQ= > > > https://www.istockphoto.com/search/2/image-film?phrase=redwood+tree+closeup > > > > > > > > > put a man's ruler on it and measure it. > > > > Oh, for sure they're not perfect straight lines. > > Nothing is perfect in the real world. > > This isn't about a perfect or imperfect world... > > it's about Euclidean geometry. > > Straight lines is ...'just a theory'. and since Euclidean geometry is 'just a theory'...that means SpaceTime is just a theory. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.