Path: csiph.com!news.bbs.nz!newsfeed.bofh.team!paganini.bofh.team!not-for-mail From: The Starmaker Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: The purpose of science Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2024 17:23:47 -0700 Organization: To protect and to server Message-ID: <668B3193.5C65@ix.netcom.com> References: <17dea0394e40408e$988$505029$c2365abb@news.newsdemon.com> <66887E6B.397@ix.netcom.com> <17df879faf8c6f0a$657$505029$c2365abb@news.newsdemon.com> <17df8d2de8223cb2$404$505064$c2265aab@news.newsdemon.com> <17dfe1ed3b8cfcab$313$506977$c2065a8b@news.newsdemon.com> <668AD032.15DE@ix.netcom.com> <17e002f734f53bd4$316$506977$c2065a8b@news.newsdemon.com> <668AECC9.BAE@ix.netcom.com> <668AF09D.4E33@ix.netcom.com> Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: paganini.bofh.team; logging-data="286497"; posting-host="nLYg9UBeoMWa070gP9wQcw.user.paganini.bofh.team"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@bofh.team"; posting-account="9dIQLXBM7WM9KzA+yjdR4A"; X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 240707-2, 07/07/2024), Outbound message X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.9.3 Xref: csiph.com sci.physics.relativity:654733 The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > Maciej Wozniak wrote: > > > > > > W dniu 07.07.2024 o 19:28, The Starmaker pisze: > > > > Maciej Wozniak wrote: > > > >> > > > >> W dniu 07.07.2024 o 10:15, Thomas Heger pisze: > > > >>> Am Samstag000006, 06.07.2024 um 08:53 schrieb Maciej Wozniak: > > > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> if the universe does not have a purpose, why does science thinks > > > >>>>>>>> it has > > > >>>>>>>> a purpose? > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Well, maybe there is a purpose maybe not. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> This is a difficult question, but not really for physics. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> For sure, physics is too primitive for serious > > > >>>>>> subjects. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>> No, not quite. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Quite. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> But how would you, for instance, measure 'purpose'? > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Sometimes it's necessary to use brain and > > > >>>> think, making measurements can't substitute > > > >>>> that. Surprise? > > > >>> > > > >>> well, yes, but your brain is not exactly what I would call 'measuring > > > >>> device'. > > > >> > > > >> Good. You shouldn't call it "measuring device", > > > >> because it is not. > > > >> > > > >> And, well, worshipping measuring devices is > > > >> stupid. Of course, people worshipping measuring > > > >> devices can't know it is stupid, because their > > > >> measuring devices can't measure stupidity. > > > >> > > > >> Actually, dealing with any serious, advanced > > > >> terms is out of the range of measuring devices, > > > >> physics and exact sciences in general. They're > > > >> too primitive for that. > > > > > > > > The earth is at an exact distance from our sun. > > > > > > > > any closer it would burn up > > > > any farther it would freeze. > > > > > > > > Doesn't that take some 'measuring device' to keep it just right???? > > > > > > No. All a measuring device can do is > > > to display a number. > > > > If you happen to have a ruler, you will notice besides human numbers, > > but 'increments'...a mark, different degrees. > > > > God doesn't use numbers. God uses a knob with marks on it, he turns the > > knob to a certain degee until it reaches the mark. > > > > It doesn't display a number. > > Let me give you another example closer to home... > > A Sundial's surface has 'markings'. As our Sun moves across the sky, a > shadow is cast on these markings. The Sun does not display...numbers. When our Sun casts a shadow and uses our earth's surface as a 'measuring device'... the earth doesn't display...numbers. If it is 12 o'clock high, where is the clock? -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.