Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!newsfeed.bofh.team!paganini.bofh.team!not-for-mail From: The Starmaker Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,alt.atheism Subject: Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Date: Fri, 31 May 2024 12:11:35 -0700 Organization: To protect and to server Message-ID: <665A20E7.F58@ix.netcom.com> References: <6656B7E5.752@ix.netcom.com> <66575B72.7656@ix.netcom.com> <66578E3A.57FC@ix.netcom.com> <6657C27F.35B6@ix.netcom.com> <0dvf5jpr79945np8shjurvnotdiv3n32nt@4ax.com> <6658ADB2.6E8E@ix.netcom.com> <6658D1CD.38D1@ix.netcom.com> <66595D33.145C@ix.netcom.com> Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: paganini.bofh.team; logging-data="3158931"; posting-host="nLYg9UBeoMWa070gP9wQcw.user.paganini.bofh.team"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@bofh.team"; posting-account="9dIQLXBM7WM9KzA+yjdR4A"; X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 240531-4, 05/31/2024), Outbound message X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.9.3 Xref: csiph.com sci.physics.relativity:653985 sci.physics:887857 alt.atheism:3377838 Attila < wrote: > > On Thu, 30 May 2024 22:16:35 -0700, The Starmaker > in alt.atheism with message-id > <66595D33.145C@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > > >Attila < wrote: > >> > >> On Thu, 30 May 2024 12:21:49 -0700, The Starmaker > >> in alt.atheism with message-id > >> <6658D1CD.38D1@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > >> > >> >Attila < wrote: > >> >> > >> >> On Thu, 30 May 2024 09:47:46 -0700, The Starmaker > >> >> in alt.atheism with message-id > >> >> <6658ADB2.6E8E@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >Attila < wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> On Wed, 29 May 2024 17:04:15 -0700, The Starmaker > >> >> >> in alt.atheism with message-id > >> >> >> <6657C27F.35B6@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Attila < wrote: > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> I have yet to see any valid evidence supporting the > >> >> >> >> existence of any god. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Do you see trees anywhere else in the universe? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> I have not looked everywhere. Have you? > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >You want proof of God, would a California Driver License ID do? > >> >> > >> >> Probably not. What are the conditions for obtaining one? I > >> >> don't trust anything coming out of Cartel West. > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >The problem here AttiLa is that God is everywhere. Even if you looked 'everywhere' > >> >> >you wouldn't be able to 'see' Him...just as a fish in his aquarium doesn't understand > >> >> >what he sees everywhere pass the glass. > >> >> > > >> >> >Difficult to analyze and describe...God is subtle. > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> "Oh, look! A pile of poop! That proves there is a god!" > >> >> "Oh, look! A rock! That proves there is a god!" > >> >> "Oh, look! A bug! That proves there is a god!" > >> >> "Oh, look! A ham sandwich! That proves there is a god!" > >> >> > >> >> Take your pick. For some that is all the evidence that is > >> >> needed. > >> > > >> >I think you are not understanding... > >> > >> So you say. I require a bit more. > >> > >> > > >> >God is everywhere, but > >> >You cannot look everywhere at once. > >> > > >> >I didn't say "Look over there." > >> > > >> >If you look over there you might see a rock.. > >> > > >> >but if you look eveywhere..you see...God. > >> > > >> >God is everywhere, not ...over there. > >> > > >> >A rock is not everywhere, it's over there. > >> > > >> > > >> >Where's that ham sandwitch???? i bet it's somewhere overthere. > >> > >> I rest my case. > > > > > >I have to applaud your efforts on your search for God and seeing ... A > >ham sandwich! > > What makes you think I am searching for any god? > > The ham sandwich is what some others accept as sufficient > evidence. Thus proving nuts are everywhere. Chock full o'Nuts is that heavenly coffee!... Since your quest to find proof of God led you to a...ham sandwich, I have to go by what your eyes see. Maybe you found God in a ham sandwich. So, to continue, I need to use your ham sandwich as proof of God. If you go to the store to buy Ham, and you get home and realize you forgot to buy the bread... and you take the Ham out of the packaging and eat it, it's not a ham sandwich. You need at least two slices of bread to make a ham sandwich. If you have two slices of bread you can make the ham sandwich, a chicken sandwich a grilled cheese sandwich a BLT a hamburger sandwich even a hotdog sandwich! So, a sandwich is a ...creation. It's an arrangement... you create a sandwich that looks like a sandwich... I mean, you saw a ham sandwich which means it had to have at least two slices of bread on it to be considered a sandwich... a ham sandwich. It is simply a creation, an arrangement of materials on earth to create what appears to you to be a ham sandwich. You change the arrangement and it could easily be a hotdog sandwich. Now, look out your window...do you see that tree over there? It's not a tree. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.