Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!newsfeed.bofh.team!paganini.bofh.team!not-for-mail From: The Starmaker Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,alt.atheism Subject: Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science. Date: Sat, 04 May 2024 21:47:07 -0700 Organization: To protect and to server Message-ID: <66370F4B.76D@ix.netcom.com> References: <4rf23j54ji8pup1lm5opc3enb1ggep0dh2@4ax.com> <4j853jlsqjn8p2fuc7ojivlvkbb9ctgh1i@4ax.com> Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: paganini.bofh.team; logging-data="3680731"; posting-host="nLYg9UBeoMWa070gP9wQcw.user.paganini.bofh.team"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@bofh.team"; posting-account="9dIQLXBM7WM9KzA+yjdR4A"; X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 240504-4, 05/04/2024), Outbound message X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.9.3 Xref: csiph.com sci.physics.relativity:653411 sci.physics:887229 alt.atheism:3371503 Attila < wrote: > > On Sat, 4 May 2024 21:23:06 +1000, Maximus > in alt.atheism with message-id > wrote: > > >Attila wrote: > >> On Sat, 4 May 2024 12:25:30 +1000, Maximus > >> in alt.atheism with message-id > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Attila wrote: > >>>> On Fri, 3 May 2024 22:37:39 +1000, Maximus > >>>> in alt.atheism with message-id > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Attila wrote: > >>>>>> On Thu, 2 May 2024 10:36:18 +1000, Maximus > >>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Attila wrote: > >>>>>>>> On Wed, 1 May 2024 20:43:25 +0100, cld > >>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Attila wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 1 May 2024 01:01:01 +1000, Maximus > >>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Did the last sane person leaving California remember to > >>>>>>>>>> turn off the lights? Did he do the same for the Rotten > >>>>>>>>>> Apple? > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Abortion should be like any other medical procedure > >>>>>>>>>> and be the decision of the patient and the doctor. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> ----------------- > >>>>>>>>> and the third person > >>>>>>>> There is no third person before live birth. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> yes there is, the father. > >>>>>> He is not involved at this point. > >>>>> so only the mother has a say in what happens? > >>>>> > >>>> She is the only person directly involved. The final > >>>> decision belongs to her. She is the only one directly > >>>> affected by that decision. > >>> the father is directly involved. her decision will determine if he will > >>> eventually have a biological child or not, assuming no miscarriage > >>> > >> No, > > > >that makes no sense. if the woman has a abortion the father doesn't get > >to be a parent > > So? Many men become a parent and the result is no change at > all in their life. In fact, any such a change is voluntary > on his part. The woman has the responsibility to take care > of the child (after risking her life and health to give > birth) unless she proactively passes that responsibility on > to another person. She can be arrested if she does not do > this. > > > > >> the events will progress even if the father is not aware > >> of the situation. The only person who is always involved in > >> deciding what the eventual result will be is the woman > >> involved. In fact, the father does not even need to be > >> alive. > >> > >> Her decision and her decision alone will determine he > >> outcome. > > > >of course. but I'm saying the father has a right to say whether the > >pregnancy should be terminated or not. but of course the woman will do > >what she wants regardless > > The father has no skin in the game once the woman is > pregnant. She is the one risking her life and health and > such a risk should be voluntary and not forced. I don't know what kind of world yous people live in... https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hsph-in-the-news/homicide-leading-cause-of-death-for-pregnant-women-in-u-s/ but if a guy kills a pregant woman it means he decides if the baby lives or not. The woman has no say. Look at the Prime Minister of Israel. He bombs baby hospitols. He is a baby killer. He has pregnant women killed simply because they are...pregnant. It is the man who decides whether or not a pregnant women has a baby or not, not the women. leading-cause-of-death-for-pregnant-women-in-u-s...MURDER. https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hsph-in-the-news/homicide-leading-cause-of-death-for-pregnant-women-in-u-s/ call it birth control, non-consensual abortion, genocide, etc. If a woman tell her guy she's pregnant, the first thing he thinks of is...abortion. https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hsph-in-the-news/homicide-leading-cause-of-death-for-pregnant-women-in-u-s/ you cannot say no to a man. This Is A Man's World. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.