Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!paganini.bofh.team!not-for-mail From: The Starmaker Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh Subject: Re: Winner, Winner, Human Dinner! Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2023 00:26:34 -0800 Organization: To protect and to server Message-ID: <657ABC3A.3783@ix.netcom.com> References: <656ED254.756A@ix.netcom.com> <656EE1DB.56BF@ix.netcom.com> <656EE374.4D5@ix.netcom.com> <657155C2.6A6B@ix.netcom.com> <65721569.5DAA@ix.netcom.com> <6573629D.193D@ix.netcom.com> <657498FA.1158@ix.netcom.com> <6574B683.6DB2@ix.netcom.com> <65753DBB.20A9@ix.netcom.com> <65761CFF.5953@ix.netcom.com> <6576A81C.7F4E@ix.netcom.com> <6577432F.3C89@ix.netcom.com> <657970D2.4FD6@ix.netcom.com> <657A9D36.7558@ix.netcom.com> <657AB683.2A3A@ix.netcom.com> Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: paganini.bofh.team; logging-data="3851126"; posting-host="nLYg9UBeoMWa070gP9wQcw.user.paganini.bofh.team"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@bofh.team"; posting-account="9dIQLXBM7WM9KzA+yjdR4A"; Cancel-Lock: sha256:IiKtNrVqpLB/tuHgoAkBH+9NDVLbPj1a9UnC/M57IIw= X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.9.3 X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 231213-6, 12/13/2023), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) Xref: csiph.com sci.physics.relativity:625751 sci.physics:883694 alt.fan.rush-limbaugh:2721996 The Starmaker wrote: > > Physfitfreak wrote: > > > > On 12/14/2023 12:14 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > > > Physfitfreak wrote: > > >> > > >> On 12/13/2023 2:52 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > > >>> The Starmaker wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> The Starmaker wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> On 12/10/2023 2:18 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > >>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> On 12/9/2023 10:25 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > >>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> On 12/9/2023 12:48 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/9/2023 10:42 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/8/2023 12:38 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/7/2023 12:56 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Starmaker wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What came first, trees or the ocean? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll answer the question since no one really knows except me... > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trees came first! > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To put it simply... > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.' > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He did not create 'and the ocean', He created, 'and the earth.' > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now the trees make their own...rain. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And the rain makes a river > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And the river makes the ocean. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's very simple. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, oceans were first. Read Sagan books. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I see, you have never seen an ocean before... > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tell everyone here Where did all that water on Earth came from???? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why should I do that? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> You're the Physics Freak! > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> So was Sagan. > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Sagan didn't even believe he was a person or a human being, are you > > >>>>>>>>>>> aware of that???? > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> You mean he thought he was an ape? > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> I already wrote on this thread: "Actually, there are no people on earth > > >>>>>>>>> or humans..." > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> i didn't mention anything about monkies.. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Obvisiouly you haven't 'Read Carl Sagan' books. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Read Sagan books. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> I read all of his books, even a few of his papers. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> I think he was from Brooklyn too, no? Sometimes that accent jumped a > > >>>>>>>> little out when he wasn't so careful about how he talked. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> An elephant would tell you..."I didn't call myself.. elephant." > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Carl Sagan would tell you..."I didn't call myself Carl Sagan." > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Sagan didn't even believe he was a person or a human being, and > > >>>>>>> and he didn't call himself Carl Sagan. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Turn on the TVeee > > >>>>>>> turn off the volume.. > > >>>>>>> and watch what you call > > >>>>>>> people on tv. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> After a while you won't know > > >>>>>>> what they are... > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Did Sagan say all that? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> "nothing but a collection of atoms bearing the name 'Carl Sagan.'" > > >>>>> --Carl Sagan > > >>>> > > >>>> Of course, there are different versions of the same quote by Sagan, even by Sagan himself > > >>>> everytime he repeats it... > > >>>> > > >>>> "I am a collection of water, calcium and organic molecules > > >>>> called Carl Sagan. You are a collection of almost identical mole¬ > > >>>> cules with a different collective label." -Carl Sagan > > >>>> > > >>>> Now, let's get back to that time when the whole earth was > > >>>> just a ...Rain Forest. > > >>>> > > >>>> The Rain Age...dat was before the Stone Age, and the Ice Age, etc. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Now, all noise aside... > > >>> > > >>> while the rain forest was busy > > >>> making a river > > >>> to an ocean... > > >>> > > >>> you need fishes > > >>> to fill the ocean. > > >>> > > >>> Trees make the ocean, and trees also > > >>> make the fishes. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> The leaves > > >>> that fall in the water > > >>> turn into...fishes. > > >>> > > >>> From Leaves to Fishes. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Look at the cover of this Science Journal Science Magazine..: > > >>> > > >>> https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1166218593597444102/photo/1 > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Trust the science. > > >>> > > >> > > >> "A celebration of ignorance", as Sagan put it. > > > > > > Lots of science people claim to read...books, but they don't.. > > > > > > If you read Sagan you would know he said the first ocean was formed by...trees. > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's not what I remember. > > You mean...'you don't recall.' You don't remember what you never > read...i understand that. > > To be fair, I don't expect you to remember ...everything he wrote, or > anything. > > > He said oceans were first made. In fact the > > first form of life itself was some unicellular thing that was formed > > inside the ocean! :) Trees evolved way later than that first appearance > > of life. > > You continue to show you don't remember...anything. ignorance is a > bliss, isn't it? > You seem to lack A LOT of knowledge of what Carl Sagan said and wrote. > > First you say: "He said oceans were first made.", but you don't say How. > > Second you say 'life was formed inside the ocean, then trees evolved > later. > > You lack knowledge on the first part, and the second part you are > rembering completely... WRONG! > > Completely opposite!! > > Layman book???? I mean, do I gotta start all over again from the very beginning??? The Moon's gravitional pull causes the one drop of water on a leaf to drop on the ground, in turn, making a river, a river to make a sea. The tree keeps the ocean...wet. It keeps it liquid. river to the sea. it's dat simple! -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.