Path: csiph.com!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!paganini.bofh.team!not-for-mail From: The Starmaker Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: Time does not end... Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2023 16:07:22 -0700 Organization: To protect and to server Message-ID: <6542DA2A.40A0@ix.netcom.com> References: <653AAB43.5A7C@ix.netcom.com> <9e1a393e-9eee-4d62-9eee-c4295fc8e146n@googlegroups.com> <653DE1BC.7F50@ix.netcom.com> <653EEB77.413F@ix.netcom.com> <653EFDD8.68CA@ix.netcom.com> <653F4E8B.10D8@ix.netcom.com> <6542AEDE.3AD@ix.netcom.com> Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: paganini.bofh.team; logging-data="3962666"; posting-host="nLYg9UBeoMWa070gP9wQcw.user.paganini.bofh.team"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@bofh.team"; posting-account="9dIQLXBM7WM9KzA+yjdR4A"; Cancel-Lock: sha256:Edlv3YKhw7mu85Na3czlLwa9noNgz4lQ0YqaNGYD2lY= X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 231101-6, 11/01/2023), Outbound message X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.9.3 X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Xref: csiph.com sci.physics.relativity:623634 Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > > On 11/1/2023 1:02 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > >> > >> On 10/29/2023 11:34 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > >>>> > >>>> On 10/29/2023 5:50 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 10/29/2023 4:32 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 10/28/2023 9:38 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>>>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On 10/26/2023 2:37 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 1:19:11 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/26/2023 11:20 AM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:08:48 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where was that second time before? with the first time? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How are their two times together first? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What makes the first go away without infinite gravity? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moving at its normal speed. Make an sense? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Time does not end at all. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If Time does not end at all then > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Time has no beginning at all. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> No. There can be an absolute beginning without an end... > >>>>>>>>>>>> [...] > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Did God exist before this "absolute beginning"? ;^) > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> In another way... He has always been a timeless God... > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> That's a bit of a head scratcher for me. Something that has always been > >>>>>>>>>> there. It was never created, and will never pass away. For it has always > >>>>>>>>>> been there, and will always be there... Forevermore. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> God wasn't always there... > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> God is a result of the evolution of the universe. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> So, are you saying the universe itself is the real, "God"? Evolution of > >>>>>>>> the universe implies that it was in a primordial sort of state? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Well, afaict, it boils down to basically a chicken and egg problem? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Fair enough? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> You confusing before the big bang with after the big bang. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> God came Before the big bang...He created it. God is a result > >>>>>>> of the evolution of the universe..the universe that existed Before the > >>>>>>> Big Bang. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> He created it implies that he existed before creation. Therefore, was he > >>>>>> always there, or not? Chicken and egg, basically... > >>>>> > >>>>> God is a result of the evolution of the universe. That means God Evolved. > >>>>> > >>>>> God wasn't always there... > >>>>> > >>>>> and neither were you. > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> How long did the universe exist before God came into play, so to speak? > >>> > >>> forever and a day. > >>> > >>> > >> > >> :^D > >> > >> Was God ever truly alone? Humm... > > > > Before God came into play...so to speak, .. > > > > the universe had plenty of time to figure out > > how to create a universe with everything IN IT. > > > > The universe needed a God to create it. > > [...] > > So this is your answer to the chicken and egg problem? > > God was before the universe, right? First a universe then God came in/evolved afterwards then God created the heavens and the earth....In the Beginning. "In" The operative word is "in"! Definition of the word...In: expressing the situation of something that is or appears to be enclosed or surrounded by something else. https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+in The Code: 'In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.' in: to be enclosed or surrounded by something else. What is dis chicken business???? -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.