Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: The Starmaker Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics Subject: Re: THE RIEMANN CURVATURE OF GOD Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2023 21:58:05 -0800 Organization: The Starmaker Organization Lines: 180 Message-ID: <63DDF3ED.3DDD@ix.netcom.com> References: <064f32cb-5ffa-46a0-9535-29c45074fae4n@googlegroups.com> <63C9AC46.652B@ix.netcom.com> <29b221bf-39b7-461b-939c-b4583f4d774dn@googlegroups.com> <071fe141-de7e-4189-8010-422108a6977an@googlegroups.com> <0e8cd270-a874-4300-af2c-0a78179a02dbn@googlegroups.com> <8703b166-d09f-4b79-9927-96f85bd3181bn@googlegroups.com> <615a9a24-f118-4afb-a291-eb8b93a802den@googlegroups.com> <75693fdc-c815-4853-a721-46b53b44ff20n@googlegroups.com> <4c7c0087-d5ae-4199-86e3-c087240c47a9n@googlegroups.com> <69c12453-5e27-4b41-aa3b-0d5760572461n@googlegroups.com> <99a94c60-c3a9-4f94-a6bd-2bb0a678983bn@googlegroups.com> Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: reader01.eternal-september.org; posting-host="b763ae284e8a2c77c78a45589ba8124b"; logging-data="1946451"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/E3IkLoxktnjW/+C00/dSN//BJBA9b5Is=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:wG3rXnerdwq/c86jNt2pQd5E25I= X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 230203-8, 02/03/2023), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Xref: csiph.com sci.physics.relativity:600747 sci.physics:869173 George Hammond wrote: > > On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 2:50:19 PM UTC-5, Tom Roberts wrote: > > On 2/3/23 1:24 AM, George Hammond wrote: > > > On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 4:43:00 PM UTC-5, Tom Roberts > > > wrote: > > >> On 2/1/23 7:57 PM, George Hammond wrote: > > >>> a 2nd rank tensor CAN and USUALLY IS written as a MATRIX > > >> [Tom Roberts] wrote: This is not true. It is the COMPONENTS of the > > >> rank-2 tensor, relative to a specified basis, that can be written > > >> as a matrix; the basis is usually, but not always, a local set of > > >> coordinate axes. > > > [George E Hammond MS Physics] You conveniently failed to quote the > > > 2nd sentence following the one you quoted above – in which I say: – > > > . > > >> "In particular, In Relativity the 4 x 4 METRIC TENSOR is > > >> universally written as a 4 x 4 MATRIX" > > > . So CLEARLY – I am talking SPECIFICALLY about the COMPONENTS of the > > > 4 x 4 metric tensor... > > Yes -- all too many authors, including yourself, discuss tensor > > components while calling them "the tensor". My point was that the > > distinction is important: the tensor is independent of basis and > > coordinates, but its components explicitly depend on the basis > > (coordinates). > > > > [That basis/coordinate independence is one of the primary > > reasons for using tensors in physical theories.] > > > FURTHERMORE this entire thread is a discussion of this 4 x 4 > > > COMPONENT metric/matrix expressed in Cartesian coordinates > > That's your problem -- you are discussing a matrix that is EXPLICITLY > > coordinate dependent. Note that coordinates are arbitrary human > > constructs, and nature never uses them, so no coordinate-dependent > > quantity can accurately model any phenomenon of nature. But here that's > > OK, as "GOD" is not any phenomenon of nature -- both "GOD" and those > > metric components are figments of your imagination. > > > > [Of course the whole thing is useless to anyone who does > > not share your imaginary figments, which is why I am > > normally absent from this thread). > > > > Tom Roberts > . > [George E Hammond MS Physics] > .... Look Tom – > The Einstein Metric of objective space-time > The Friedmann Metric Of Astrophysics > The Hammond God Metric of Subjective Space-Time > . > Are by definition > ALL COORDINATE INDEPENDENT: – > . > | 1 o o o. | > | o 1 o o. | = EINSTEIN METRIC > | o o 1 o. | > | o o o -1.| > . > |a² o o o. | > |o a² o o. | = FRIEDMANN (FLRW) METRIC > |o o a² o. | > |o o o..-1.| > . > |a² o o o. | > |o a² o o. | = HAMMOND METRIC OF GOD > |o o a² o. | > |ooo-1/a²| > . > You can write them in Cartesian coordinates, > spherical coordinates, or any coordinate system > you choose – because they are tensor equations. > . > ==================================== > So you are WRONG when you say that the > "God Metric" is "Coordinate Dependent" > it is just as "coordinate INDEPENDENT" > as the FL RW metric of Astrophysics is !! > ==================================== > . > The problem is that you do not understand the > difference between: > OBJECTIVE space-time > and > SUBJECTIVE space-time > . > You don't even NEED to understand the > DIFFERENCE – just consider them 2 separate > and independent space times with different > METRICS . > . > But for the more Scientifically Inquisitive > reader let me explain that OBJECTIVE > space-time is measured with clocks and rulers, > while SUBJECTIVE space-time is the reality > that you actually SEE – – for instance a > 6 month old kid SEES a world that is > 4 TIMES LARGER AND 4 TIMES FASTER > THEN AN ADULT > . > And this is WHY a "Friedman type Scale Factor" > a{t} appears in the GOD METRIC ! > .. > NOW OBVIOUSLY "subjective" space-time is > what is commonly called "Psychological Reality. > Whereas "objective" space-time is psychologically > independent "objective (scientifically measurable) > reality". > . > THIS IS WHY it is called the "GOD METRIC". > . > Now I don't expect you to understand or even CARE > about all that – but let me remind you that there are > billions of people in the world who DO !. > . > And the reason is this is – for 2023 years we have had > to suffer the disgusting experience of sitting in a > Christian church facing a dead body hanging from a > Cross in the front of the Church – because that was > the only way they could "explain what God is". > . > Well guess what Tom – your SPR buddy George has > discovered A SCIENTIFIC Proof of God – that does not > require a dead body hanging from a Cross to scientifically > proof that there is a "REAL GOD". > . > You may not think that's important or significant, > but I think it's so important that we should RESTART > THE JULIAN CALENDAR at year 01 starting in 2024 ! > I'm here to tell you that the "Age of Jesus" is over ! > We now have a scientific Proof of God ! > . > Please don't go away mad– if you have any further > comments about the "God Metric" I would certainly like > to hear about them! > . > George > . There is no reality in SUBJECTIVE space-time. and have Never been proven to be a reality. go back to the drawing board.... call tech support.. error, error, error. There is no reality in SUBJECTIVE space-time. and have Never been proven to be a reality. go back to the drawing board.... call tech support.. error, error, error. error, error, error. error, error, error. error, error, error. error, error, error. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzerror, error, error. error, error, error. call tech support.. in India. you got a billion people who will take your call. or any 7/11 store can help you. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.