Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: The Starmaker Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: Time Dilation Experiments Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2022 14:48:56 -0700 Organization: The Starmaker Organization Lines: 103 Message-ID: <62AF99C8.5A7C@ix.netcom.com> References: <62AF735F.5D7@ix.netcom.com> <28909ea5-cf4f-4b6c-b746-60c3b1153550n@googlegroups.com> <62AF7C8B.17A@ix.netcom.com> <0c1368eb-dfd9-41db-afbf-c2d9cdb5079bn@googlegroups.com> Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: reader02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="2e945079d876c0ef1fca6f02fb7658f6"; logging-data="7315"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/GJFzbGXRNmYHro55145Jfs4f44KrAF4s=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:5RDP16hEqD/BQLFFac+QFk7cLtQ= X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 220619-8, 06/19/2022), Outbound message Xref: csiph.com sci.physics.relativity:587242 Ed Lake wrote: > > On Sunday, June 19, 2022 at 2:44:06 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote: > > Ed Lake wrote: > > > > > > On Sunday, June 19, 2022 at 2:04:59 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote: > > > > Ed Lake wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Over the years, I've accumulated a list of 12 major Time Dilation > > > > > experiments which CONFIRM that Time Dilation is REAL, and that > > > > > time does run at different rates for an object depending upon an > > > > > object's speed and its proximity to a gravitational mass. > > > > > > > > > > Here's the link: http://www.ed-lake.com/Time-Dilation-Experiments.html > > > > > > > > > > Here's the list of experiments: > > > > > 1. Hafele-Keating > > > > > 2. NIST Optical Clocks and Relativity > > > > > 3. Geodesy and Metrology experiment (measuring altitude by time difference) > > > > > 4. Muon experiments > > > > > 5. University of Maryland > > > > > 6. Japanese Mitaka to Norikura > > > > > 7. Briatore and Leschiutta > > > > > 8. National Physical Laboratory - 1996 > > > > > 9. Van Baak - 2005 > > > > > 10. National Physical Laboratory - 2010 > > > > > 11. Van Baak - 2016 > > > > > 12. Tokyo Skytree - 2020 > > > > > > > > > > Is there anyone here who seriously claims that Time Dilation > > > > > has NOT been fully verified by these experiments? > > > > Of course time dilation is real, but what is never mentioned is > > > > that Time Dilatiion runs as different rates for different objects. > > > > > > > > (not that > > > > time runs at different rates for an different objects) > > > > > > > > It is that ..Time Dilatiion runs as different rates for different > > > > objects. > > > > > > > > Time Dilation is...inconsistent. > > > > > > > > To put it simply, sometime it dilatates, sometimes it doesn't. > > > > > > > > Does any of those on dat list mentioned WHEN time dilatated???? > > > > > > > > In otherwords, do an experiment...all of them using the same object. > > > > > > > > Will they all get the same result? > > > > > > > > They will discover that > > > > sometime it dilatates, sometimes it doesn't. > > > > > > > > Time Dilation is...inconsistent. > > > > > > You make no sense. The "objects" being used in ALL the time dilation > > > experiments are TWO ATOMIC CLOCKS. Nothing else can MEASURE or > > > DISPLAY the very very TINY effect that velocity and altitude have on objects > > > at the speeds and altitudes we can achieve with today's technology. > > > > > > One of the astronaut twins was in space for over a year, while the other twin > > > was mostly on the ground. As a result, one twin aged 5 MICROSECONDS > > > more than his twin. Only an atomic clock can measure microseconds. > > > > > > Ed > > Okay, then everyone at that list can do the experiment all 'at the same > > time', > > with two clocks. > > Will they all get the same result? > > Do you have to wait a year to see a 5 micosseconds? > > > > Is that like around one second every other month? > > > > When does the one second happen? in two months? > > > > > > or at the end of the year? > > There's an on--line computer for calculating velocity time dilation at > this link: https://keisan.casio.com/exec/system/1224059993 > > Someone in orbit may travel 17,000 mph which is 7.6 kilometers per second. > That means that 1 second for the person in orbit will be 1.0000000003213 > seconds for the person on the ground. > > Someone would have to travel 259,628 kilometers per second before > on second for him will be 2 seconds for someone on the ground. > > Ed All I want to know Mr. Ed is, if it takes a year (365 days) to record 5 MICROSECONDS, then WHEN did the 1 MICROSECONDS happen? It has to a number between 1 and 364. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.