Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: The Starmaker Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: Do you feel the pass of time? Really? Think again. Date: Sun, 29 May 2022 11:37:48 -0700 Organization: The Starmaker Organization Lines: 88 Message-ID: <6293BD7C.2CD3@ix.netcom.com> References: <5aa1d100-f118-4031-9dba-aca8e8ef35a8n@googlegroups.com> Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: reader02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="e92c8193e82eb107f0abd74af39f7557"; logging-data="752"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18sEYmxdvu3dS/TZLNyiHf5DeD0hPEhYZ4=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:MvWtIdN9zUZ8a+N8SKfbDArdRIA= X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 220529-2, 05/29/2022), Outbound message Xref: csiph.com sci.physics.relativity:586079 Richard Hertz wrote: > > On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 1:17:42 AM UTC-3, Richard Hertz wrote: > > Once upon the time, a cretin wrote a paper that had an assertion about time > > which was bought by generations of followers who worshiped him: > > > > "Time is what my clock shows", wrote the imbecile. And from that, he > > developed a fairy tail about time and length, which plagiarized a prior paper > > from Lorentz, which dismissed the expression of time as non-linear undesired > > result of his pursuit of length contraction due to inertial motion. > > > > But actually, I never read about any scientific attempt to define time, in the > > following 100 years. This is because time is an auxiliary variable to describe > > motion, and only has any value as a relative interval or duration. Not an > > absolute mark with physical meaning. > > > > Do the following experiment: > > > > Sit and do nothing, except the mental effort trying to capture the pass of > > time. If possible, do it in a quiet room with nothing moving. You can have > > a clock, either analog or digital. > > > > Do the following: > > > > I) Mark a timestamp, and just allow things happens. You can move or > > be still. > > > > Do you feel the pass of time? Check the elapsed timestamp. Did it feel > > real? > > Now try to focus on the pass of time for one hour (set an alarm). > > Once the alarm goes off, what did you experienced? Did you feel the pass > > of time? Really? By the second or by the minute? > > > > Think about what time was for you in these experiments. > > > > II) Now repeat I) but looking at the clock all the time, sensing (but not counting) > > every second as you observe the clock. > > > > Once a time duration of the experiment (as measured by your clock), think > > about time and if you felt that it was passing. > > > > Did the pass of time had ANY MEANING to you? > > > > Probably not. Then ask yourself WHAT THE FUCK TIME IS. > > > > For some cretins, time is the fourth dimension of the aberration called > > spacetime. > > > > According to these cretins, you HAVE BEEN TRAVELING in the fourth dimension, moving but not moving. > > > > Does it make any sense to you? Of course not. > > > > But more than 50,000 cretins made a living with this shit in the last 100 years. > > > > You don't feel an IMBECILE yet? Well, keep thinking until you really start > > to be mad about this shit. > > > > Then, when you're mad enough, you become A NORMAL PERSON. > > > > It is worth the effort to BE AWAKE. > > > > Congratulations. > > Sad to see how the topic of this thread has derailed, because relativists can't stand to THINK beyond the fucking > 1905 paper. > > Now, it turned into a discussion of the twins' paradox, speed of light and similar subjects again and again and again. > > And this happens when people, indoctrinated to the core with SR, can't think beyond their noses. > > Pathetic show of fossilized minds, stuck in the doctrines of a cult. > > Nobody seems to be capable to discuss the concept of time in the quantum world or in the entire universe. > > It's a pity, but a predictable behavior. There is a narrative, consolidated for decades, and there is not any intellectual capability > at this forum to discuss things that are detached from such narrative, which provides a comfort zone for mentally weakened snowflakes. Now you sound like Einstein talking about...other people. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.