Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!news.misty.com!border2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!buffer2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!buffer1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2022 12:03:09 -0500 Message-ID: <626825D2.771D@ix.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2022 10:03:14 -0700 From: The Starmaker Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com Organization: The Starmaker Organization X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet? References: <41ddb03a-b0a9-4e3d-b83b-4b7b5e029220n@googlegroups.com> <626041C5.21EC@ix.netcom.com> <626048D8.873@ix.netcom.com> <891f7bbf-967f-44d1-b421-3ec577baaf8cn@googlegroups.com> <90a3c8b8-e43a-4740-9510-16508737d4f8n@googlegroups.com> <62624560.4281@ix.netcom.com> <62624976.669B@ix.netcom.com> <626376B7.3B84@ix.netcom.com> <62637F7E.6ED8@ix.netcom.com> <6264D8A6.3368@ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 220426-2, 04/26/2022), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Lines: 172 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 108.219.229.47 X-Trace: sv3-8i9OsXYnUrRkpWWBBJslgLvHSpymRW5FBO5ZH3KYg692sMzj+bTGxN3HM76kagZ+0Sccj6QEn2e3+tc!WN6e7xh0fofkJFk7gf1et4gfkv9P5058RfO4SxW+ipPRrlaeAFvsd1C7nCbNiaxRjUycQFoDXOzy!25jwQDVmLBk= X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 9546 Xref: csiph.com sci.physics.relativity:584135 The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Richard Hertz wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 8:02:27 PM UTC-3, Michael Moroney wrote: > > > > > > > On 4/20/2022 2:17 PM, Richard Hertz wrote: > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 2:54:28 PM UTC-3, The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > >> The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> Richard Hertz wrote: > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> Officially, according with the International Astronomical Union (IAU), the Solar System comprises: > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> Not according with the International Astronomical Union (IAU)... > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> All of it's members (IAU) do not agree with with findings of the > > > > > > > >>> International Astronomical Union (IAU). > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> Those members (IAU) who disagree are not allowed to vote on the > > > > > > > >>> findings, so the findings are fraudalent. > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> It is one or two that make the findings at the International > > > > > > > >>> Astronomical Union (IAU). > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> The votes are rigged. > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> In otherwords, whatever the big guy sez ...goes. > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> It's a garbage union. Anything that comes out of it is...garbage, and > > > > > > > >>> belongs in the trash can. > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> you should know dis by now. > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> There is no one here that would disagree with that (including all of the > > > > > > > >>> IAU members, except the big guy.) > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> In the Italian Mafia, if the members disagree with the big guy...they > > > > > > > >>> kill him. > > > > > > > >> The question you should be asking is not what happened to the fifth > > > > > > > >> planet....but what happened to the nineth planet? (if you dare) > > > > > > > >> -- > > > > > > > >> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > > > > > > > >> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, > > > > > > > >> and challenge > > > > > > > >> the unchallengeable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whit this criteria, Jupiter should not be demoted as a planet anymore. TheTrojan cloud, asteroids that occupy more than 20% of the > > > > > > > > Jupiter’s orbital path, following the giant, should be enough reason. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [snip meltdown] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me guess. There are no planets other than Mercury and Venus, since > > > > > > > all the other "planets" all have moons, so their orbits are not cleared > > > > > > > of objects other than themselves. > > > > > > > > > > > > Read my post, above, with detailed info directly from IAU database, imbecile. > > > > > > > > > > > > It's the Apr 20, 2022, 2:39:19 AM post (your local time, mine minus one hour). > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter not a planet? > > > > > > > > > > If they are going to use 'definitions' to define planet, then the Earth > > > > > is not a planet... > > > > > since there ain't anything like it anywhere in the universe. > > > > > > > > Truth is...the word "dwarf planets" was invented when they voted Pluto > > > > not a planet. Before that, the term "dwarf planets" never existed. > > > > > > > > They just made it up. > > > > > > Hell, they made up everything! > > > > > > The vote took place at the August 2006 IAU meeting in Prague, which > > > included 424 voting members (out of a total membership of 9,000). The > > > majority vote was for Pluto to be redesignated as a dwarf planet > > > > > > "Pluto is not a planet," Brown said. "There are finally, officially, > > > eight planets in the solar system." > > > > > > The vote involved just 424 astronomers who remained for the last day of > > > a meeting of the International Astronomical Union (IAU) in Prague. > > > > > > "I'm embarassed for astornomy," said Alan Stern, leader of NASA's New > > > Horizon's mission to Pluto and a scientist at the Southwest Research > > > Institute. "Less than 5 percent of the world's astronomers voted." > > > > > > "This definition stinks, for technical reasons," Stern told SPACE.com. > > > > > > The vote was scheduled at the end of a 10 day conference in Prague when > > > almost everyone had left. Only 424 of nearly 10,000 members remained. > > > > > > IAU President, Ronald d. Ekers, opened the session stating that the IAU > > > was asked to act on the planet definition issue. He stressed that prior > > > proposals were delayed because cultural and popular issues needed to be > > > considered. > > > > > > Ekers stated that this was not just a scientific debate and that the > > > issue cannot be resolved by science alone. "This is not just a > > > scientific issue of what is correct. There is no correct answer to this > > > question." > > > > > > "The question is; what is a sensible compromise that will not just work > > > for the professionals in the field but will work for everybody who is > > > interested the sky, the planets, is curious, is educating and so on." > > > > > > After Mr. Ekers and a panel member read two overwhelmingly positive and > > > zero dissenting messages from colleagues on the pending resolutions he > > > called for a show of hands however; 15 IAU members stepped forward to > > > speak. The first 14 speakers were dissenting, and generally cut off by > > > Mr. Ekers. The contentious and angry dissention included voters "not > > > being properly consulted" and receiving the changed resolutions "just > > > now as entering the session." > > > > > > The response from Ekers; "the last step of the proposals was done in > > > secret to keep them from the press." It seems that a lot of people were > > > interested in this outcome and were getting in the way of the desired > > > outcome of the rogue scientists. > > > > > > These IAU members strongly dissented stating that the decision to vote > > > was rushed, more debate needs to take place, the vote should be > > > postponed and that "what was being presented was an insult to the entire > > > astronomical institution." > > > > > > The 15th and final speaker was recognized and stated that he was no > > > scientist but that he wanted to say that the committee was doing a great > > > job. > > > > > > A movement by prominent scientists to meet mid-2007 to organize an > > > electronic vote by the full membership did not succeed. > > > > > > IAU President, Ronald d. Ekers is the motherfucker. A crank. > > > > Of course, IAU President, Ronald d. Ekers doesn't want electronic voting... > > > > https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81m1ZFcggzL._AC_SL1000_.jpg > > A movement by prominent scientists to organize an electronic vote by the full membership did not succeed not > because they weren't smart enough, but simply they weren't...tough enough. > > There is only one way to handle a union boss IAU President, Ronald d. Ekers.. > > Where's Hoffa? So, if you ask IAU President, Ronald d. Ekers 'what is the definition of a planet' he's tell you... "There is no correct answer to this question." Translation: "GO FUCK YOURSELF!" > > -- > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge > the unchallengeable. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.