Path: csiph.com!news.mixmin.net!aioe.org!/cd6lVY8Z/mQ7QUEKAKGKw.user.46.165.242.75.POSTED!not-for-mail From: The Starmaker Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: General and Special Relativity are Irreconcilably Inconsistent Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2022 00:16:28 -0700 Organization: The Starmaker Organization Message-ID: <625E61CC.DA8@ix.netcom.com> References: <625E3267.3710@ix.netcom.com> <0f8b1e84-d31c-4eb1-9b7f-395636b2554an@googlegroups.com> Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: gioia.aioe.org; logging-data="40164"; posting-host="/cd6lVY8Z/mQ7QUEKAKGKw.user.gioia.aioe.org"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@aioe.org"; X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.9.2 X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 220418-6, 04/18/2022), Outbound message X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) Xref: csiph.com sci.physics.relativity:583343 JanPB wrote: > > On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 8:54:13 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote: > > patdolan wrote: > > > > > > On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 7:40:26 PM UTC-7, Sylvia Else wrote: > > > > On 19-Apr-22 12:05 pm, patdolan wrote: > > > > > General Relativity and Solar System-- > > > > > > > > > > > > > Special Relativity and the Solar System-- > > > > > Now we acquire a velocity of .867c relative to the solar system, directed along the line that is collinear with the sun’s axis of rotation. From our new viewing situation we see that the earth’s path through the solar system’s curves spacetime remains identical to the previous case because the earth’s path remains undistorted by Lorentz contraction. But due to Lorentz time dilation the earth now takes 730.5 days to complete the identical path through the identically curved spacet > > > > > > > > > > To summarize, we observe the earth’s velocity has been halved by Special Relativity while traveling through identically curved spacetime due to General Relativity. According to General Relativity, this state of affairs is no longer stable. The solar system’s spacetime will rapidly suck the earth down to fiery doom. The Christoffels do not lie. So either the mere act of someone in a different FoR observing the solar system will doom it, or Relativity is necessarily a many-worlds theor > > > > > > > > > > [This should make them ponder things for quite some time, Richard(s). Sure, that windy birds Bodkin will type something about trees and sports cars tout de sweet. But his words will be his typical obfuscations for his utter inability to respond in an effective manner. Tom, Dirk and Sylvia won’t even dare to touch this. I might be interested in what Townes Olson has to type, however.] > > > > Special Relativity does not generally apply in the presence of gravity, > > > > so the above is nothing new. > > > > > > > > Sylvia. > > > I'm shocked Sylvia, shocked! Bodkin will tell you there is no such thing as gravity. So will Albert. There is only spacetime and curved spacetime. I'm interested if you disagree. > > Spacetime is just a con. > > > > A made up word that has no real meaning or reality. > > Not even wrong. Gobbledygook. > > -- > Jan "Not even wrong. Gobbledygook." Those words used to mean something, but now it means ...nothing. The echoes are gone in the hall... -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.