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Subject: Re: Philosophy and physics
Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2022 20:16:59 -0800
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Richard Hertz wrote:
> 
> On Tuesday, March 1, 2022 at 12:13:19 PM UTC-3, bodk...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> <snip>
> 
> > No, you’re not following. I use aoie AND a home VPN.
> > Whenever I connect to aoie, which is only for this purpose, I use a remote routing IP.
> > For other connections, say for banking, I use a different routing IP.
> 
> I understand that you have two ISP: one for normal use (DSL, cable, FO) and another for Usenet (mobile ISP),
> and that you use an IPad for the last service, with your VPN access to a remote NNTP server.
> 
> Each ISP has to give you, when you just connect, an IP address provided by their DNS or it could be impossible to route your
> packets through the Internet.
> 
> Any ISP that want to connect to an NNTP server (through a VPN) has to offer a FIXED IP address to such server. This is the IP
> that is public, even when spoofed your real IP. The ISP has to do so because routers can't route encrypted IP addresses.
> 
> The injection point of your traffic to the VPN tunnel toward the NNTP server vary with each ISP. Unless you specifically contract
> a service with an arbitrary spoofed IP address, chosen by you (county, state, country), the ISP will use its nearest NNTP injection
> point, which is seen by aioe.org as a fixed (not switched) IP address.
> 
> The VPN tunneling between your VPN client (on your IPad) occurs because the ISP knows how to translate your traffic over his
> connection to the NNTP Server, even when your ISP can't see anything of it, except some elementary data from the header of the
> IP Packet. Your data, above IP is fully encrypted.
> 
> But, as the aioe.org server only establish connections with registered fixed address ranges, the location of the injection point will
> be always the same, and linked to any given ISP. This could be secret (with a paid VPN service), but aioe.org publishes the IP of
> the OUTPUT of the ISP that you use. So, unless you contract a service to spoof your local IP (to other state or country), there is
> a fixed pattern of traffic that relates the IP of the injection point and the NNTP server, which is always the same.
> 
> I don't know how to explain this more clearly. That's why I gave you instructions about how to read traffic data from aioe.org, which
> they make public (data accummulated in the last 24 hours, or 86400 sec).  As aioe.org, a free service, only allows 86400 sec/day
> connections, and then reset the distant fixed IP and ban it for 24 hours as a penalty (also count the connections/day, traffic, etc.),
> you have to be aware of these limitations or will be banned for 1 day.
> 
> For most users of aioe.org, this is much more than enought but many agencies establish NNTP connections over the given IP
> in excess of time, amount of data and simultaneous groups. Then they are banned for 1 day, and you can read that list.
> 
> If you use any IP locator, you'll see that the IP correspond to ISP, not final users. But, as most of them don't want to spoof origin,
> is not rocket science to relate ISP IP with geographical are that's served by that IP address.
> 
> Of course, such task is formidable because involve table lookups of millions of IP ranges and thousands of ISP, but it's possible.
> 
> However, there are other means, like search of patterns in connections IF you access to an Usenet provider that allows searching
> on their database of articles (or posts).
> 
> You should analyze the difference between aioe.org and any paid VPN provider with NNTP gateways for Usenet. You have a LOT at US,
> 
> Here, there are only two, very expensive and with restrictions to access to 100% of Usenet servers worldwide.
> 
> Hope this clumsy explanation can help you.

Do you know How to do a UDP?



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