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Re: Contradiction or my math/physics error?

From Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Contradiction or my math/physics error?
Date 2023-04-12 21:29 +0200
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Trevor Lange wrote:

> On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 4:57:18 PM UTC-7, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
> wrote:
>> > Again, use units with c=1, and let v be the speed of S1 in terms of S0,
>> > and let V denote the initial speeds of the objects in the negative x
>> > direction when they respectively begin accelerating, and put the origin
>> > at the initial acceleration event of the object at lower x, so its
>> > equation of motion is x = -Vt + (1/2)at^2.
>>
>> This is NOT a correct equation of motion in special-relativistic
>> mechanics because given a constant force, the acceleration cannot remain
>> constant.
> 
> You are mistaken, because the OP specifically stipulated constant
> *coordinate* acceleration, not constant proper acceleration,

I *was* *obviously* discussing only the coordinate acceleration.

> so the above formula is exactly correct.

You are confusing theories, and concepts.

I have shown that the premise of the OP is, and the formula given by you 
describes, a physical *impossibility* (regardless of whether the force is 
constant): a continuously applied, non-zero 3-force will NOT result in a 
constant coordinate (3-)acceleration.

Because if it were different, then the relative speed could in some inertial 
frame of reference reach and even exceed c.

> Indeed this was the answer to his question:  The specified loci do
> eventualy intersect, but only after at least one of them exceeds the speed 
> of light.

So this does not happen.


PointedEars
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 testing your knowledge means everything.”
   —Dr. Lawrence M. Krauss, theoretical physicist,
    in “A Universe from Nothing” (2009)

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