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"The Day The Earth Stood Still"

Started byThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
First post2025-05-18 17:23 -0700
Last post2025-06-21 15:45 -0700
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  "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-05-18 17:23 -0700
    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-05-18 21:27 -0700
      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-05-19 08:58 -0700
        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-05-19 22:46 -0700
          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-05-20 16:57 -0700
        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-05-20 08:21 +0200
          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Harlie Kabanov <le@lknel.ru> - 2025-05-20 12:09 +0000
          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-05-20 17:07 -0700
            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-05-20 22:27 -0700
            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-24 23:56 -0600
              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-05-26 08:03 +0200
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-05-26 10:47 -0700
                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-05-27 09:07 +0200
                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2025-05-27 21:37 -0400
                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-05-28 08:02 +0200
                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2025-05-28 17:11 -0400
                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Laron Todorovsky <ad@olao.ru> - 2025-05-29 07:15 +0000
                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-05-31 08:51 +0200
                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-05-31 08:41 +0200
                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Coy Shahbanov <acboonso@voo.ru> - 2025-05-31 15:15 +0000
                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2025-05-31 17:28 -0400
                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-01 09:39 +0200
                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Lloyal Balagurov <lag@auryluvya.ru> - 2025-06-01 08:48 +0000
                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2025-06-01 17:57 -0400
                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-02 18:49 +0200
                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2025-06-02 18:49 -0400
                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-03 09:11 +0200
                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2025-06-03 14:41 -0400
                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-04 08:55 +0200
                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-03 06:17 -0400
                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2025-06-03 14:45 -0400
                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-04 08:05 +0200
                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-02 01:02 -0400
                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-01 00:55 -0400
                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-01 00:26 -0700
                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-02 17:43 +0200
                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-06 00:03 -0600
                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-07 01:28 -0400
                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-07 23:44 -0600
                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-09 07:04 +0200
                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-08 23:49 -0700
                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-10 06:56 -0400
                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-10 18:23 -0700
                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-11 08:01 +0200
                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-06-13 10:14 -0700
                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-14 09:03 +0200
                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-06-14 01:23 -0700
                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-15 10:08 +0200
                                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-15 09:03 -0400
                                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-15 12:58 -0700
                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-16 03:38 -0400
                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-18 09:56 +0200
                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-18 09:30 -0700
                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-18 12:55 -0400
                                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-19 10:02 +0200
                                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-19 01:13 -0700
                                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-19 08:54 -0700
                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-18 22:41 -0600
                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-19 01:07 -0700
                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-20 09:17 +0200
                                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-20 12:00 -0700
                                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-06-20 12:07 -0700
                                                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-20 12:40 -0700
                                                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-21 09:22 +0200
                                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-21 00:50 -0700
                                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-24 12:09 +0200
                                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-24 03:25 -0700
                                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-25 09:41 -0700
                                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-25 10:20 -0700
                                                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-06-25 11:27 -0700
                                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-27 08:04 +0200
                                                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-27 09:19 -0700
                                                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-28 18:28 +0200
                                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-21 09:19 -0700
                                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-24 12:14 +0200
                                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-24 03:28 -0700
                                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-06-24 10:02 -0700
                                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-27 07:39 +0200
                                                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-06-27 06:04 -0700
                                                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-27 09:18 -0700
                                                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-27 10:16 -0700
                                                                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-27 11:38 -0700
                                                                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-27 13:13 -0700
                                                                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-28 18:32 +0200
                                                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Leighton Großer <elge@if.de> - 2025-06-28 16:37 +0000
                                                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-28 10:12 -0700
                                                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-13 22:25 -0600
                                                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-07-14 08:38 +0200
                                                                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-27 23:35 -0600
                                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-25 09:40 -0700
                                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-25 09:47 -0700
                                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2025-06-21 16:31 -0400
                                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-13 22:23 -0600
                                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-07-14 08:35 +0200
                                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2025-07-14 16:58 -0400
                                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-07-15 20:23 +0200
                                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-07-15 01:50 +0000
                                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Kurtiss Dogadaev <osdidr@tkiae.ru> - 2025-07-19 22:55 +0000
                                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-07-19 18:15 -0700
                                                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-07-21 01:27 -0400
                                                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-21 09:02 -0700
                                                                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-21 19:12 -0700
                                                                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-21 23:06 -0700
                                                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-23 11:21 -0700
                                                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" x <x@x.net> - 2025-07-23 11:24 -0700
                                                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-07-23 13:03 -0700
                                                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" x <x@x.net> - 2025-07-23 14:46 -0700
                                                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-07-23 16:31 -0700
                                                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-07-23 21:41 -0400
                                                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-27 23:38 -0600
                                                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-23 11:25 -0700
                                                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-07-23 22:03 +0200
                                                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-23 14:04 -0700
                                                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Reiniel Ślązak <le@eewl.pl> - 2025-07-23 22:14 +0000
                                                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-23 22:42 -0700
                                                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-23 15:37 -0700
                                                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" x <x@x.net> - 2025-07-23 15:46 -0700
                                                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-07-24 13:00 +0200
                                                                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-24 13:51 -0700
                                                                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Joe Baiburski <ek@uruik.ru> - 2025-07-24 21:01 +0000
                                                                                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-25 14:09 -0700
                                                                                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-25 14:15 -0700
                                                                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-07-25 22:12 +0200
                                                                                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Blaine Baidakov <aad@aannaoii.ru> - 2025-07-25 20:46 +0000
                                                                                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-25 19:38 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-26 00:45 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-26 11:57 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-26 00:47 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-26 11:58 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-26 19:48 -0700
                                                                                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-25 14:11 -0700
                                                                                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-25 19:35 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-26 00:44 -0700
                                                                                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-25 19:42 -0700
                                                                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-25 19:46 -0700
                                                                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-25 19:49 -0700
                                                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-25 21:17 -0700
                                                                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-26 15:26 -0700
                                                                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-27 13:39 -0700
                                                                                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-27 13:57 -0700
                                                                                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-07-27 14:33 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-07-27 17:04 -0700
                                                                                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" squalk <sq@net.inv> - 2025-07-28 00:05 +0100
                                                                                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-07-27 17:03 -0700
                                                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-25 19:33 -0700
                                                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-26 00:44 -0700
                                                                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-26 12:01 -0700
                                                                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-26 15:29 -0700
                                                                                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-07-27 13:00 -0400
                                                                                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-07-27 17:33 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-07-27 11:06 -0700
                                                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-07-27 11:40 -0700
                                                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-07-28 20:38 +0200
                                                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-07-23 21:43 -0400
                                                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-26 19:51 -0700
                                                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-26 19:51 -0700
                                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-27 23:34 -0600
                                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-07-28 01:47 -0700
                                                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-02 23:47 -0600
                                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-07-28 20:43 +0200
                                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-07-14 04:01 -0700
                                                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-06-21 13:09 -0700
                                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-06-21 13:11 -0700
                                                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-20 15:13 -0700
                                                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-23 22:41 -0700
                                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-07-24 11:11 -0400
                                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-24 13:15 -0700
                                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-07-25 22:12 +0200
                                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Emmet Dubatolov <ev@mo.ru> - 2025-07-25 23:26 +0000
                                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-26 00:42 -0700
                                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-26 12:02 -0700
                                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" x <x@x.net> - 2025-07-26 14:43 -0700
                                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-07-27 10:22 +0200
                                                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-27 13:37 -0700
                                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" x <x@x.net> - 2025-07-26 13:53 -0700
                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-06-30 22:56 -0500
                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-18 09:49 +0200
                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-18 09:30 -0700
                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-18 12:58 -0400
                                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-15 18:09 -0700
                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2025-06-16 14:09 -0400
                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-16 15:08 -0400
                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-06-16 12:39 -0700
                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-16 17:37 -0400
                                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-17 07:36 +0200
                                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-15 10:08 -0700
                                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-06-15 17:52 +0000
                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Alph Dmitrovsky <mtvsvo@tsklns.ru> - 2025-06-15 18:30 +0000
                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-16 03:44 -0400
                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-18 22:17 -0600
                                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-15 11:25 -0700
                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2025-06-15 16:32 -0400
                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-15 17:59 -0700
                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-16 03:46 -0400
                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-18 10:04 +0200
                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-18 09:30 -0700
                                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-18 13:00 -0400
                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-06-18 06:56 -0700
                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Bob Tulakov <vtbktv@akkbo.ru> - 2025-06-18 17:50 +0000
                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-17 07:44 +0200
                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-17 23:02 -0400
                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-06-17 20:05 -0700
                                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-16 03:40 -0400
                                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-06-15 18:44 -0700
                                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-06-16 09:46 -0700
                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-06-16 16:58 -0700
                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-06-17 00:58 -0700
                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-18 10:23 +0200
                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-18 13:06 -0400
                                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-18 15:41 -0400
                                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-18 13:58 -0700
                                                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-19 06:12 -0400
                                                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-19 07:12 -0400
                                                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-06-19 12:28 -0700
                                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-19 16:40 -0700
                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-06-18 14:47 -0700
                                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-06-18 14:53 -0700
                                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-18 10:07 +0200
                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-06-18 09:18 -0700
                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-19 09:36 +0200
                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-19 08:54 -0700
                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-18 09:30 -0700
                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-19 09:58 +0200
                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-19 01:23 -0700
                                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-20 09:26 +0200
                                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Franz Makhrov <vrrf@nfvrzr.ru> - 2025-06-20 14:39 +0000
                                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-20 12:01 -0700
                                                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-21 09:13 +0200
                                                                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-21 00:49 -0700
                                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-19 08:54 -0700
                                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-20 09:38 +0200
                                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Brent Baidukov <uv@rtkr.ru> - 2025-06-20 14:53 +0000
                                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-20 12:01 -0700
                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-18 13:02 -0400
                                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-18 13:09 -0400
                                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-06-18 15:15 -0700
                                              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Craig <x@y.com> - 2025-06-18 18:25 +0000
                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-14 20:54 -0400
                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-06-14 19:57 -0700
                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-15 18:13 -0700
                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-13 18:49 -0400
                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-15 09:53 +0200
                                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Oleg Smirnov" <os333@netc.eu> - 2025-06-15 14:45 +0300
                                    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-17 07:27 +0200
                                      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Oleg Smirnov" <os333@netc.eu> - 2025-06-17 16:25 +0300
                                        Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-18 10:28 +0200
                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Michele Balabuha <ehlae@hue.ru> - 2025-06-18 10:17 +0000
                                            Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-19 09:33 +0200
                                          Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Oleg Smirnov" <os333@netc.eu> - 2025-06-19 12:55 +0300
                  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-01 23:10 -0600
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-31 23:13 -0600
    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-06-21 15:40 -0700
      Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-06-21 15:45 -0700

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#638690

FromGovernor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com>
Date2025-06-13 18:49 -0400
Message-ID<7nap4k51m7q55p6jec8a9h84chds8lrue0@4ax.com>
In reply to#638656
On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 08:01:43 +0200, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
wrote:

>English had a HUGE number of ancestors, who had left their marks in the 
>English language.
>
>Keltic languages
>Latin
>Danish
>French
>German
>Dutch
>Hindi
>Kisuaheli

All stemming from Indo-European.  Sanskrit.

-- 
Wildlife officials in Tennessee found a 500 pound black bear living on
a university campus, a black bear that, let's face it, took the spot
of more deserving white and Asian bears.

8647!

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#638718

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2025-06-15 09:53 +0200
Message-ID<mb7catFphl9U4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#638690
Am Samstag000014, 14.06.2025 um 00:49 schrieb Governor Swill:
> On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 08:01:43 +0200, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
> wrote:
> 
>> English had a HUGE number of ancestors, who had left their marks in the
>> English language.
>>
>> Keltic languages
>> Latin
>> Danish
>> French
>> German
>> Dutch
>> Hindi
>> Kisuaheli
> 
> All stemming from Indo-European.  Sanskrit.
> 

I would go that far to say, that Englishmen speak Sanskrit.


TH

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#638726

From"Oleg Smirnov" <os333@netc.eu>
Date2025-06-15 14:45 +0300
Message-ID<102mbs4$sshv$2@os.motzarella.org>
In reply to#638638
Thomas Heger, <news:man86vF2uddU2@mid.individual.net>
> Am Freitag000006, 06.06.2025 um 08:03 schrieb Gronk:

>>> Prussian disappeared in the 17th century - before globalization.
>>> Conquest, military and non military can wipe out small languages.
>>> Cultures can be absorbed by larger ones leading to loss of a language.
>>> Russian is as common as Ukrainian in Ukraine.

The so called Ukrainian in the so called Ukraine is 
mostly a product of the Polish colonization for about 
three centuries, when in the territory of the present
day western & central Uraine most of the upper-class, 
landowners and urbanites, were Polish or Jewish while
the populace, peasants were "Ukrainian".

>>> There are a few common
>>> second languages today. English, French, Japanese, Spanish, Italian
>>> and lately Chinese.
>
> German was actually a 'lingua franca', too.

Indeed, - before the WW1, and also, then Germany had 
a big real chance to be another "center of world", but
then it had been eventually bondaged and disciplined.

> Chinese on the other hand is no language you like to learn for fun.
> 
> Especially writing in Chinese is REALLY difficult.
> 
> The language itself has also disadvantages.
> 
> This can be seen in many translations from Chinese in what they like to 
> call 'manuals'.
> 
> These little papers reveal a lack of something called 'grammar', hence 
> the language has a lack of possibility to express certain subtle ideas.

Not a good rationalization, seems Nazi-like, and it's not 
really a language feature. The modern Chinese-made goods 
are highly competitive because production is optimized to 
minimize costs, including the translator's expenses. Their
vendors' approach is so that the product should speak for
itself as such without a nicely written manual, especially 
when it comes to cheap products. They simply do not care.
But if it turns out that a good manual is important for 
increasing sales then be sure there will be a good manual.

> English has disadvantages, too, but which are quite irrelevant for most 
> speakers of English as a second language:
> 
> English has an insane amout of diffent words (~one million)
> 
> English has also a number of totally illogic rules and special cases.

Basically English is simple and especially convenient for
writing and reading. Small number of letters, no diacritics
and the like. Many "rules" may (and/or should) be ignored.

...

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#638760

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2025-06-17 07:27 +0200
Message-ID<mbcch0Fk6clU6@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#638726
Am Sonntag000015, 15.06.2025 um 13:45 schrieb Oleg Smirnov:
...
>> Chinese on the other hand is no language you like to learn for fun.
>>
>> Especially writing in Chinese is REALLY difficult.
>>
>> The language itself has also disadvantages.
>>
>> This can be seen in many translations from Chinese in what they like 
>> to call 'manuals'.
>>
>> These little papers reveal a lack of something called 'grammar', hence 
>> the language has a lack of possibility to express certain subtle ideas.
> 
> Not a good rationalization, seems Nazi-like, and it's not really a 
> language feature. The modern Chinese-made goods are highly competitive 
> because production is optimized to minimize costs, including the 
> translator's expenses. Their
> vendors' approach is so that the product should speak for
> itself as such without a nicely written manual, especially when it comes 
> to cheap products. They simply do not care.
> But if it turns out that a good manual is important for increasing sales 
> then be sure there will be a good manual.


Products do not speak for themselves.

Products themselves are actually only half of what the customers want.

Usually manuals, software, warranties, repair service, parts supply, 
service manuals, advertising of the brand, fashion or similar are also 
part of what costumers want.

So: a good company would take care of their market and would provide 
things like spare parts or installation services.

But China is doing mainly manufactoring and in many cases nothing more 
than that and simple shipping stuff abroad in plastic bags.

Instead of a manual these manufacturers put tiny pieces of paper into 
the box, which contain almost unreadable advices in five to ten 
different languages.


>> English has disadvantages, too, but which are quite irrelevant for 
>> most speakers of English as a second language:
>>
>> English has an insane amout of diffent words (~one million)
>>
>> English has also a number of totally illogic rules and special cases.
> 
> Basically English is simple and especially convenient for
> writing and reading. Small number of letters, no diacritics
> and the like. Many "rules" may (and/or should) be ignored.
> 

English could be stripped town to bare minimum and still remains 
undertandable.

But that isn't English anymore, but kind of 'Pidgin-Redneck-dialect'.

TH

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#638766

From"Oleg Smirnov" <os333@netc.eu>
Date2025-06-17 16:25 +0300
Message-ID<102rqet$2dneo$1@os.motzarella.org>
In reply to#638760
Thomas Heger, <news:mbcch0Fk6clU6@mid.individual.net>
> Am Sonntag000015, 15.06.2025 um 13:45 schrieb Oleg Smirnov:

>>> Chinese on the other hand is no language you like to learn for fun.
>>>
>>> Especially writing in Chinese is REALLY difficult.
>>>
>>> The language itself has also disadvantages.
>>>
>>> This can be seen in many translations from Chinese in what they like to
>>> call 'manuals'.
>>>
>>> These little papers reveal a lack of something called 'grammar', hence
>>> the language has a lack of possibility to express certain subtle ideas.
>>
>> Not a good rationalization, seems Nazi-like, and it's not really a
>> language feature. The modern Chinese-made goods are highly competitive
>> because production is optimized to minimize costs, including the
>> translator's expenses. Their
>> vendors' approach is so that the product should speak for
>> itself as such without a nicely written manual, especially when it comes
>> to cheap products. They simply do not care.
>> But if it turns out that a good manual is important for increasing sales
>> then be sure there will be a good manual.
>
> Products do not speak for themselves.
>
> Products themselves are actually only half of what the customers want.
>
> Usually manuals, software, warranties, repair service, parts supply,
> service manuals, advertising of the brand, fashion or similar are also
> part of what costumers want.
>
> So: a good company would take care of their market and would provide
> things like spare parts or installation services.
>
> But China is doing mainly manufactoring and in many cases nothing more
> than that and simple shipping stuff abroad in plastic bags.
>
> Instead of a manual these manufacturers put tiny pieces of paper into the
> box, which contain almost unreadable advices in five to ten different
> languages.

Consumers may claim they want this and that, but what consumers
really want is what they are really willing to pay money for, so
as long as a product is well-sellable, there's no necessity to
take the vocalism (if any) of [some part of] consumers to heart.
If you dislike it then simply don't buy it. Developing theories
about inferiority of language and the like is surely not a good
rationalization.

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#638783

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2025-06-18 10:28 +0200
Message-ID<mbfbhgF4kotU12@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#638766
Am Dienstag000017, 17.06.2025 um 15:25 schrieb Oleg Smirnov:
> Thomas Heger, <news:mbcch0Fk6clU6@mid.individual.net>
>> Am Sonntag000015, 15.06.2025 um 13:45 schrieb Oleg Smirnov:
> 
>>>> Chinese on the other hand is no language you like to learn for fun.
>>>>
>>>> Especially writing in Chinese is REALLY difficult.
>>>>
>>>> The language itself has also disadvantages.
>>>>
>>>> This can be seen in many translations from Chinese in what they like to
>>>> call 'manuals'.
>>>>
>>>> These little papers reveal a lack of something called 'grammar', hence
>>>> the language has a lack of possibility to express certain subtle ideas.
>>>
>>> Not a good rationalization, seems Nazi-like, and it's not really a
>>> language feature. The modern Chinese-made goods are highly competitive
>>> because production is optimized to minimize costs, including the
>>> translator's expenses. Their
>>> vendors' approach is so that the product should speak for
>>> itself as such without a nicely written manual, especially when it comes
>>> to cheap products. They simply do not care.
>>> But if it turns out that a good manual is important for increasing sales
>>> then be sure there will be a good manual.
>>
>> Products do not speak for themselves.
>>
>> Products themselves are actually only half of what the customers want.
>>
>> Usually manuals, software, warranties, repair service, parts supply,
>> service manuals, advertising of the brand, fashion or similar are also
>> part of what costumers want.
>>
>> So: a good company would take care of their market and would provide
>> things like spare parts or installation services.
>>
>> But China is doing mainly manufactoring and in many cases nothing more
>> than that and simple shipping stuff abroad in plastic bags.
>>
>> Instead of a manual these manufacturers put tiny pieces of paper into the
>> box, which contain almost unreadable advices in five to ten different
>> languages.
> 
> Consumers may claim they want this and that, but what consumers
> really want is what they are really willing to pay money for, so
> as long as a product is well-sellable, there's no necessity to
> take the vocalism (if any) of [some part of] consumers to heart.
> If you dislike it then simply don't buy it. Developing theories
> about inferiority of language and the like is surely not a good
> rationalization.

I personally think, that the Chineese themselves are not really happy 
with their language and their way of writing.

These are very nasty problems, once you want to go into international trade.

Costumers usually want all things possible and for zero price.

But that is't possible, of course.

So, some sort of negotians are requried about would shall be delivered 
and what is not necessary.

Most likely a good manual in the language of your country will a 
standard for all products in the future.


TH
> 

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#638785

FromMichele Balabuha <ehlae@hue.ru>
Date2025-06-18 10:17 +0000
Message-ID<102u3n4$32fc0$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#638783
Thomas Heger wrote:

> So, some sort of negotians are requried about would shall be delivered
> and what is not necessary.
> 
> Most likely a good manual in the language of your country will a
> standard for all products in the future.

I disagree, the local language is worse than english. They put things 
upside down. Never read a paper or a manual in gearmon, full of errors and 
misinterpretations. Like jew Einstine who was a gypsy.

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#638811

FromThomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Date2025-06-19 09:33 +0200
Message-ID<mbhslqFimq7U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#638785
Am Mittwoch000018, 18.06.2025 um 12:17 schrieb Michele Balabuha:
> Thomas Heger wrote:
> 
>> So, some sort of negotians are requried about would shall be delivered
>> and what is not necessary.
>>
>> Most likely a good manual in the language of your country will a
>> standard for all products in the future.
> 
> I disagree, the local language is worse than english. They put things
> upside down. Never read a paper or a manual in gearmon, full of errors and
> misinterpretations. Like jew Einstine who was a gypsy.

Germany is most likely not the easiest language in the world and 
certainly many Germans don't speak German properly.

But German is actually quite ok as a language and has also some 
benefits, compared to other languages.

But especially Chinese writing is nasty.

Also proper pronunciation of Chinese is really difficult, because it 
requires kind of 'singing' in different hights.

TH




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#638818

From"Oleg Smirnov" <os333@netc.eu>
Date2025-06-19 12:55 +0300
Message-ID<1030mv1$3qf32$1@os.motzarella.org>
In reply to#638783
Thomas Heger, <news:mbfbhgF4kotU12@mid.individual.net>
> Am Dienstag000017, 17.06.2025 um 15:25 schrieb Oleg Smirnov:

>> If you dislike it then simply don't buy it. Developing theories
>> about inferiority of language and the like is surely not a good
>> rationalization.
>
> I personally think, that the Chineese themselves are not really happy with
> their language and their way of writing.

Narrower focus on the way of writing seems much more relevant.

One of sensitive differences between alphabetic script vs writing
with hieroglyphs is related to borrowing of foreign terms/words.
In an alphabetic writing, you simply represent a foreign word
- adapted to your phonetics - in your alphabet (like "sputnik" or
"juchten"), and it's also applicable to foreign proper nouns. In
a hieroglyphic writing, appropriation of foreign terms and proper
nouns is more tricky. In the context of catch-up development, it's
what those Chinese themselves might feel unhappy about. But it's
not equal to "language lacking of possibility to express ideas".

In particular, so was a rationale to switch Vietnam to a Latin-
based alphabet. French colonial administration together with then
Vietnamese ruling class decided that switching to an alphabetic
script will make introduction of new concepts more digestible for
local populace, while the underlying agenda was to promote novel
progressive European trends there. But switching to a new writing
system brings also certain losses, because next generations will
be unable to read original old texts related to national cultural
tradition (but, on the other hand, with the modern development of
machine translation such considerations may become much less
important).

In broader context, Chinese writing started early, their division
of labour (variety of social-economic roles and professional
occupations within society, that contributes to language richness)
also emerged early, - earlier than in Europe. And in contrast to
some other ancient cultures, the cutural tradition was maintained
uninterruptedly (although it significantly shifted backward some
times throughout history, when simpler nomads from the north took
over sedentary Chinese regions). So it'd be naive to think their
language isn't rich enough in expressive means, but another issue
is about good translation for Europeans, as the language (its all
dialectal branches) is not close to the Indo-European family.

> These are very nasty problems, once you want to go into international
> trade.
>
> Costumers usually want all things possible and for zero price.
>
> But that is't possible, of course.
>
> So, some sort of negotians are requried about would shall be delivered and
> what is not necessary.
>
> Most likely a good manual in the language of your country will a standard
> for all products in the future.

If you buy a product from a known / "big" Chinese brand, then an
instruction there will likely be OK, and if you buy a cheap
product from a little known or no-name vendor then there may well
be a paper with hieroglyphs on one side and some Latin letters
looking like a heavily broken English on the other side.

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#638566

FromGronk <invalide@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-06-01 23:10 -0600
Message-ID<101jboq$31e57$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#638489
The Starmaker wrote:
> Thomas Heger wrote:
>>
>> Am Sonntag000025, 25.05.2025 um 07:56 schrieb Gronk:

> I'm surprised you didin't add it is also a name of a cat food brand in
> Afganastian!!!!

It is? Cite?

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#638539

FromGronk <invalide@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-05-31 23:13 -0600
Message-ID<101gni5$1qfp8$7@dont-email.me>
In reply to#638483
Thomas Heger wrote:
> Am Sonntag000025, 25.05.2025 um 07:56 schrieb Gronk:
>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>> Thomas Heger wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Am Montag000019, 19.05.2025 um 17:58 schrieb The Starmaker:
>>>>> "Klaatu barada nikto"????
>>>>>
>>>>> Easy, it comes from Albert Einstein language...German!!!!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> KLAATU means I'm the victory of the people in the German language.
>>>>
>>>> This is not German!
>>>>
>>>> I have read, that this sentence means:
>>>>
>>>> God will not destroy the Earth (possibly: this time?).
>>>
>>> You are not thinking like an einstein...Klaatu in German
>>
>> Not German. Estonian
>>
>> https://translate.google.com/?sl=auto&tl=en&text=klaatu&op=translate
> 
> 'Klaatu barada nikto"
> 
> Seems to be composed from three different Eastern European languages:
> 
> Klaatu is Estionian and means 'cloak'
> barada is Russian and means 'nobody'
> nikto is Slovak and means 'nobody'.

Not one of the German.

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#638859

From"Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com>
Date2025-06-21 15:40 -0700
Message-ID<1037cdg$1asm4$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#638429
On 5/18/2025 5:23 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
[...]

WWIII might actually occur! Not 100% sure, but it seems to be a critical 
situation. Crossing fingers!

https://youtu.be/IXvwQ1_REBE?list=RD_p6okLK3sq0

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#638860

From"Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com>
Date2025-06-21 15:45 -0700
Message-ID<1037clr$1atnn$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#638859
On 6/21/2025 3:40 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> On 5/18/2025 5:23 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> [...]
> 
> WWIII might actually occur! Not 100% sure, but it seems to be a critical 
> situation. Crossing fingers!
> 
> https://youtu.be/IXvwQ1_REBE?list=RD_p6okLK3sq0
> 

If we really go into ww3, well, shit. Damn it.

https://youtu.be/a1KFFPeJ8BI?list=RD_p6okLK3sq0

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