Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!newsfeed.bofh.team!paganini.bofh.team!not-for-mail From: The Starmaker Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.math Subject: Re: ? ? ? Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2024 10:15:54 -0700 Organization: To protect and to server Message-ID: <660AEBCA.74B7@ix.netcom.com> References: <1HWE6H1jV8YTvxfaaL7fnCCcpe8@jntp> <1bcd63e24f9d1f35a1aa7af1b44091d2@www.novabbs.org> <6603AF12.5708@ix.netcom.com> <6604AC3B.77D5@ix.netcom.com> <6604B933.6C7F@ix.netcom.com> <66075733.3803@ix.netcom.com> <6609B924.23B4@ix.netcom.com> <6609D9CD.24AE@ix.netcom.com> Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: paganini.bofh.team; logging-data="1274837"; posting-host="nLYg9UBeoMWa070gP9wQcw.user.paganini.bofh.team"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@bofh.team"; posting-account="9dIQLXBM7WM9KzA+yjdR4A"; X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.9.3 X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 240401-6, 04/01/2024), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Xref: csiph.com sci.physics.relativity:652607 sci.physics:886257 sci.math:626543 I mean, come on..let's be real here... a clock does not detect time it doesn't even measure the flow of time or the direction of time or the arrow of time (or which way is it going?) okay, i got the bow of time, which way am i pointing the arrow of time? just follow the arrow. The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Thomas Heger wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 23.03.2024 um 18:39 schrieb Yatzyk Trampotova: > > > > > > > > Thomas Heger wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> the Entropy π—œπ—¦ time. Please stop π—»π—Όπ˜ undrestanding tensors. Look at > > > > > > > >>>> No, because both terms are related, but not equal. > > > > > > > >>>> Second law of thermodynamics means actually heat distribution. > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> They had no clue about the radiant nature of heat when they started > > > > > > > >>> talking about entropy. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> Heat transfer is possible in three different ways: > > > > > > > >> transport of heated media (convection) > > > > > > > >> dissipation of heat within some sort of stuff (conduction) > > > > > > > >> radiation Therefore it is not true, that thermal energy is always > > > > > > > >> transported by radiation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > totally irrelevant. It's about you don't know what time is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, yes, because actually most people do not really know what time is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We have watches and clocks, but do not really know, what makes time move. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > TH > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know how else to explain it in terms that you can understand... > > > > > > > > > > > > (especially since this is being posted to a ...math group of people?) > > > > > > > > > > > > So, go back to the clock..whose hands on the clock are simply > > > > > > a mechanical shadow... > > > > > > > > > > > > From the perspective of a 'math group of people' who believe that > > > > > > mathematical objects are ...real, by the exact same person who told > > > > > > them the 'shadow' is not a real world. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yous people are in a matrix. > > > > > > > > > > > > The shadows whether in a cave or on the face of a clock is not reality. > > > > > > > > > > > > The clock is displaying...shadows. > > > > > > > > > > > > Math are shadows. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yous people are in a matrix. > > > > > > > > > > > > You're prisoners of shadows. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mathematical objects are shadows... > > > > > > > > > > > > leave the cave... > > > > > > > > > > > > leave the matrix.. > > > > > > > > > > notice that Plato never mentions anything about the shadows on > > > > > sundials... > > > > > > > > > > > > > Plato looks at the Sundial and exclaims "THAT CANNOT BE THE CORRECT TIME, IT'S SHADOWS!!!!" > > > > > > I mean, I just don't understand... > > > > > > Plato looks at the shadows and > > > says those shadows are not reality, > > > while he sees everyone using the shadows > > > on sundials for measuring Time. > > > > > > On the other side of his mouth he > > > claims NUMBERS are real physical objects. > > > > > > The Sundial contains shadows and Numbers! > > > > > > Are the numbers real and the shadows not.. > > > > > > Or are the shadows real and the numbers not... > > > > > > or are the shadows and numbers are real? > > > > > > The shadows and the numbers are not reality is the Answer. > > > > > > Numbers don't exist out there.. > > > > > > and the shadows are not physical objects. > > > > > > So, shadows tell you the time? > > > > > > Those hands on the clock are > > > mechanical shadows.. > > > > > > yous still using sundials > > > to measure time with shadows... > > > > > > and imaginary numbers. > > > > > > YOU PEOPLE ARE INSANE!!! > > > > > > 'notice that Plato never mentions anything about the shadows on > > > sundials...' > > > > > > > Now, you take the clock apart.. > > > > first you remove the mechanical shadows > > what you call hands on the clock > > actually high tech shadows... > > > > then you remove the numbers from > > the face of the clock... > > numbers don't exist out there.. > > > > Now what? You take apart the > > actusl cover and what do you see... > > > > a Machine! > > > > No different than removing > > that warm smile from a > > womans' face and seeing behind it.. > > > > a Machine! > > > > The clock and the woman > > are illusions. > > > > 'Very stubborn illusions' as someone once siad. > > > > So, what is measuring Time? Illusions?? > > > > Is Time an illusion too! > > > > It's just the Sun's shadow. > > > > Does the shadow...tick? > > > > Does the shadow make sudden > > tik tok movements? > > Keep in mind, I understand you > need these illusions to survive.. > you need the shadows > the imaginary numbers > and especially.. > her warm smile... > > otherwise you would be > seeing not her..but a monster. > > But don't tell me the > universe is mathematical, because > you insult my intelligence. > > Buy her some lipstick. > > Tell her how pretty she looks > while she mocks you with her smile. > > She is just a ...machine. > (with lipstick) > > Machines need illusions too! > > -- > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, > and challenge the unchallengeable. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.