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On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 3:11:18 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
> On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 8:19:53 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > On Wednesday, June 28, 2023 at 1:37:58 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 11:51:44 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 2:30:59 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 1:53:33 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 11:17:03 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > On Sunday, June 25, 2023 at 8:25:45 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > > On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 8:33:29 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 8:18:05 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 1:32:56 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 1:24:23 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 8:42:13 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 11:45:06 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, June 21, 2023 at 8:35:21 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 12:50:52 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, June 19, 2023 at 8:38:23 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, June 19, 2023 at 8:36:23 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 3:49:58 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 8:41:49 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, June 17, 2023 at 1:45:49 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, June 17, 2023 at 1:44:48 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, June 17, 2023 at 8:23:47 AM UTC-7, Mild Shock wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The field of mathematics has recently received important 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > new contributions. Rossy Boy and Jeniffer are at the forefront 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of a new break through in the miracles of truth. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The miracles of truth"? Are you high? 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "I was being sarcastic, dummy." 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's just such a poorly-turned phrase that it's hard to tell that... 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Wag: "Did he write the works of Shakespeare, too?" 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No, those are known to have been composed before 'living memory'. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Well, what if Cormac McCarthy's works were misdated?" 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Misdated? 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Do you mean that the 'copyright' is not aligned with the book's first real appearance in print?" 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Something like that, yes. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Is that a common occurrence, 'feigned publication date'?" 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not traditionally, no. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Continued: "What, do you mean *Suttree* was not published in 1979?" 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone remember seeing it in stores back then? 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Is that common? Back-dating the copyright of newly published books?" 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It wasn't common, no. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Maybe it doesn't happen, though?" 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It'd be hard to tell in an individual case, but some people would have a pretty good idea they "hadn't seen it in the stores at the time". 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "That seems unlikely." 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > It wasn't common, once. It then became more common in the decade before the turn of the century. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "I don't know whether to believe you." 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, in that situation of 'epistemic ignorance'... 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > "Give me another putative example of misdated fiction works." 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > The works of Abdelrahman Munif? 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > "The name is 'not known' in the Arab world, really." 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Neither were the novels seen at the time they are 'copyrighted to', either. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > "Wow... weird... I don't like it." 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Are you someone who supposes "a fact is a fact", if it's true? 
> > > > > > > > > > > > "Yeah, I'm not one of *those* people*." 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Well, maybe that's a fact and maybe it isn't. 
> > > > > > > > > > > "What would 'not known in the Arab world' mean?" 
> > > > > > > > > > > He was not, under any name, a 'known quantity' in the Arab world." 
> > > > > > > > > > "That doesn't mean anything to me." 
> > > > > > > > > > "I see you rather instantly understand the concept of relativizing to your world-view and social circumstances. That's interesting." 
> > > > > > > > > "What about when his name is spelled differently, as Abdel Rahman Munif?" 
> > > > > > > > > "That's a different person, actually." 
> > > > > > > > > "I find that hard to believe." 
> > > > > > > > > "No, it would be a different person." 
> > > > > > > > "I'm not really sure I believe that." 
> > > > > > > > That makes sense, I guess. 
> > > > > > > > "No, I'm *really not sure* I believe that." 
> > > > > > > > Why would your own 'unique' perspective be so important, hmm? 
> > > > > > > "What about John Wray? Is he in on this too?" 
> > > > > > > Do you mean the early-modern UK politician, or the US writer? 
> > > > > > "You mean John Ray, apparently." 
> > > > > > Saying doesn't make it *not so*, either. #effortless expertise 
> > > > > "Question: does it matter how you spell the name 'Auster', as in 'Paul Auster'?" 
> > > > Answer: "Oster" is just fundamentally a different name, actually. 
> > > "Does the name 'Auster' mean something, then?" 
> > > It would be the older, 'austere' meaning of the Easter holiday. 
> > "Is this important?" 
> > In a way, maybe, or maybe not. 
> > "That's a pretty weak formulation." 
> > It would be.
> "Next you're going to talk about Alain Badiou." 
> What?

Why would I do that at all?

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