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The Prolog Community is extremly embarrassing (Re: Prolog totally missed the AI Boom)

From Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Newsgroups sci.logic
Subject The Prolog Community is extremly embarrassing (Re: Prolog totally missed the AI Boom)
Date 2025-07-25 21:28 +0200
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Hi,

That is extremly embarassing. I don’t know
what you are bragging about, when you wrote
the below. You are wrestling with a ghost!
Maybe you didn’t follow my superbe link:

 > seemingly interesting paper. In stead
 > particular, his final coa[l]gebra theorem

The link behind Hopcroft and Karp (1971) I
gave, which is a Bisimulation and Equirecursive
Equality hand-out, has a coalgebra example,
I used to derive pairs.pl from:

https://www.cs.cornell.edu/courses/cs6110/2014sp/Lectures/lec35a.pdf

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:
> 
> Inductive logic programming at 30
> https://arxiv.org/abs/2102.10556
> 
> The paper contains not a single reference to autoencoders!
> Still they show this example:
> 
> Fig. 1 ILP systems struggle with structured examples that
> exhibit observational noise. All three examples clearly
> spell the word "ILP", with some alterations: 3 noisy pixels,
> shifted and elongated letters. If we would be to learn a
> program that simply draws "ILP" in the middle of the picture,
> without noisy pixels and elongated letters, that would
> be a correct program.
> 
> I guess ILP is 30 years behind the AI boom. An early autoencoder
> turned into transformer was already reported here (*):
> 
> SERIAL ORDER, Michael I. Jordan - May 1986
> https://cseweb.ucsd.edu/~gary/PAPER-SUGGESTIONS/Jordan-TR-8604-OCRed.pdf
> 
> Well ILP might have its merits, maybe we should not ask
> for a marriage of LLM and Prolog, but Autoencoders and ILP.
> But its tricky, I am still trying to decode the da Vinci code of
> 
> things like stacked tensors, are they related to k-literal clauses?
> The paper I referenced is found in this excellent video:
> 
> The Making of ChatGPT (35 Year History)
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFS90-FX6pg

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The Prolog Community is extremly embarrassing (Re: Prolog totally missed the AI Boom) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-07-25 21:28 +0200
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      Gold medal waiting for the crankiest of cranks (Re: Unfinished Bimbo Stuff: 4.1. Trees as terms) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-07-26 16:12 +0200
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