Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!nntp.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Don" Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: CoB LED filament analysis Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2026 22:56:45 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 47 Message-ID: <20260425a@crcomp.net> References: <20260411a@crcomp.net> <20260421a@crcomp.net> <3c6fuk16nn9tfhj24q3ulue347ab93jvh8@4ax.com> <20260421b@crcomp.net> <20260424a@crcomp.net> <20260424b@crcomp.net> <20260424d@crcomp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2026 22:56:46 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="ce6ab853b7937e87c2e798bb18441e31"; logging-data="1284980"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18tmCxtesliMJhsmI7pzz+z" Cancel-Lock: sha1:lonm6i3fpU3FVyhp+GLgQ3WdByk= Xref: csiph.com sci.electronics.design:743381 john larkin wrote: > Don wrote: >> Don wrote: >>Game over. Lessons learned: >> >> 1. Pease hated solderless breadboards for a good reason: they introduce >> stray capacitance. After the solderless breadboard is removed the >> filament's current curve reverts to its true form with voltage and >> current in phase. > > 10 pF maybe. A million times less than would explain what you are > seeing. > > But yes, the plastic solderless things are awful. > > https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/pk2t79ipe26c62lw9xi82/Z412_Proto.JPG?rlkey=jypa4wdmgqsvwu0l51rx1x445&raw=1 Bravo! If I remember correctly, you use a dental drill? My own freehand dremel on copper isn't nearly as straight. Perhaps my new milling table [1] will help. My media tends towards universal board. As an artiste associate, appreciate my abstract art arrangement: Note how voltage and current perfectly align after the solderless protoboard is swapped out and replaced by my abstract art arrangement: There's little, if any, wriggle room for the phase anomaly to caused by anything other than stray capacitance from the solderless breadboard. Note. [1] Danke, -- 73, Don, WD7Q veritas _|_ liberabit | https://www.qsl.net/wd7q vos |