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Re: Was 'Does Anyone Still Visit..' Now analogue declicker

From kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey)
Newsgroups rec.audio.pro
Subject Re: Was 'Does Anyone Still Visit..' Now analogue declicker
Date 2025-09-13 10:17 -0400
Organization Former users of Netcom shell (1989-2000)
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Liz Tuddenham <liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote:
>Tobiah <toby@tobiah.org> wrote:
>
>> > I could start a thread on an analogue declicking computer for 78s,
>> > which I am currently designing, but the number of participants would
>> > probably be very limited.
>> 
>> You might be surprised.  Is it working?  How does
>> its performance compare to digital solutions.
>
>I'm pleased to report that the MkIII version which I have been working
>on recently has now worked for the first time.  The results are very
>promising and it is extremely easy to operate.
>
>Unfortunately, in trying to track down a common-earth hum problem, I
>accidentally blew up one of the power supply regulators and I didn't
>have a spare.  A new one is on order, so I hope to resume testing in a
>few days.
>
>The basic principle is to split the sound spectrum into ten bands, each
>about an octave wide.  In each band a click or crackle is identified by
>comparing the vertical and horizontal vectors of the stylus movement -
>if there is more than a certain proportion of vertical movement, a
>switch opens and momentarily disconnects the signal.  The band is then
>filtered again, so that the harmonics due to switch clicks are removed
>and damped resonance in the filter covers any short gaps in the sound.
>All ten bands are then recombined to restore the original spectrum.

That's not a declicker!  That's a broadband noise reduction system!
Compare with the Dolby Cat 43 system.

The declicker has a delay and looks at the first derivative of the input
signal, and when it is too high it replaces the signal with the delayed
signal or it holds the existing level, or it fades from one to the next,
in order to blend around a single impulse.  Compare with the SAE 5000.

I think that the Audio Cyclopedia has schematics of both designs, both
pretty primitive but showing the techniques.
--scott

-- 
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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  Re: Does Anyone Still Visit this Pro Audio NewsGroup???? Geoff <geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org> - 2025-07-29 17:26 +1200
    Re: Does Anyone Still Visit this Pro Audio NewsGroup???? liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2025-07-29 09:30 +0100
      Re: Does Anyone Still Visit this Pro Audio NewsGroup???? Paul Dorman <quiller123@gmail.com> - 2025-07-29 04:42 -0700
      Re: Does Anyone Still Visit this Pro Audio NewsGroup???? Tobiah <toby@tobiah.org> - 2025-07-29 06:33 -0700
        Re: Does Anyone Still Visit this Pro Audio NewsGroup???? liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2025-07-29 21:35 +0100
        Was 'Does Anyone Still Visit..'  Now analogue declicker liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2025-08-31 08:58 +0100
          Re: Was 'Does Anyone Still Visit..'  Now analogue declicker liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2025-09-09 08:35 +0100
          Re: Was 'Does Anyone Still Visit..'  Now analogue declicker kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2025-09-13 10:17 -0400
            Re: Was 'Does Anyone Still Visit..'  Now analogue declicker liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2025-09-15 20:25 +0100
              Re: Was 'Does Anyone Still Visit..' Now analogue declicker Geoff <geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org> - 2025-09-16 10:40 +1200
                Re: Was 'Does Anyone Still Visit..' Now analogue declicker liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2025-09-16 09:23 +0100
                Re: Was 'Does Anyone Still Visit..' Now analogue declicker Geoff <geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org> - 2025-09-17 10:35 +1200
                Re: Was 'Does Anyone Still Visit..' Now analogue declicker liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2025-09-17 09:26 +0100
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                Re: Was 'Does Anyone Still Visit..' Now analogue declicker liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2025-09-18 10:42 +0100
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