Re: science-based fantasy

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From	djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt)
Subject	Re: science-based fantasy
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Date	2023-09-20 01:37 +0000
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In article <ueda3h$2ipfv$2@dont-email.me>,
Dimensional Traveler  <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>On 9/19/2023 12:56 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>> In article <e74abcab-ab90-48f4-ad31-3d646a9a93efn@googlegroups.com>,
>> Tony Nance  <tonynance17@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 6:38:46 PM UTC-4, WolfFan wrote:
>>>> Poul Anderson once had a fantasy involving all kinds of magical
>creatures and
>>>> all kinds of magical effects, such as certain creatures turning to stone on
>>>> being exposed to sunlight... and inflicting a curse on any who plunder their
>>>> stoney bodies. Obviously, if carbon is transmuted to silicon, it’ll
>>>> probably be a _radioactive_ isotope of silicon... Similar sciency-stuff for
>>>> other things.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Are you referencing Anderson's Operation Chaos and Operation Luna here?
>>> (It's been a while since I read them.) If not, I suggest they fit what you're
>>> looking for.
>> 
>> [Hal Heydt]
>> No.  The reference is to Three Hearts and Three Lions.  It's
>> where Holger Carlson engages the--not very bright--troll in a
>> riddle contest and keeps the troll up until sunrise.
>> 
>Was that before or after Tolkien did something very similar?  :)

[Hal Heydt]
Gandalf got the three trolls to ague among themselves until
sunrise.  I'd have to check dates, but I think Tolkien was
earlier.  The *idea* is undoubtedly much older.

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