Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Patricia Ferreira Newsgroups: pt.comp.programacao Subject: Re: Emacs LISP e Common LISP Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2024 19:44:21 -0300 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 38 Message-ID: <874j46x0hm.fsf@example.com> References: <87frpl43k7.fsf@example.com> <87frpi69c8.fsf@lispclub.com> <87ldyinvb2.fsf@example.com> <87r089wque.fsf@lispclub.com> <87a5exmbh9.fsf@example.com> <87plns7hrh.fsf@lispclub.com> <87v7xkjqu1.fsf@example.com> <87r088fhqv.fsf@lispclub.com> <87sesohzg9.fsf@example.com> <87ed3kwp6z.fsf@example.com> <87v7wwozkp.fsf@ic.ufrj.br> <871pzjxdut.fsf@example.com> <87r07jvyp0.fsf@example.com> <87cyj1rgtk.fsf@example.com> <877c97lxmy.fsf@example.com> <87seruyl47.fsf@lispclub.com> <874j4a4zee.fsf@ic.ufrj.br> <871pzbjlvn.fsf_-_@lispclub.com> <87wmh3hyl7.fsf@lispclub.com> <87iksnyt9k.fsf@example.com> <87plmvhrnj.fsf@lispclub.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2024 23:44:26 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="65da7200bc094ecb55af3710e9e710ac"; logging-data="270449"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+4fp/hAcLxV56CaD8SXv4dVqEmB6VjDa4=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:UVQYsU9G2vTVtdN3KQHVPRW6udA= sha1:xSsn6V6l+vzj5662tcCDPJ1nXgM= Xref: csiph.com pt.comp.programacao:354 Daniel Cerqueira writes: > Patricia Ferreira writes: > >> Daniel Cerqueira writes: >> >>>> Penso que Stallman é considerado um hacker de LISP de primeira >>>> geração. >>> >>> Estive a ver, e o criador da palavra "hacker", Steve Levy, diz que >>> Stallman é o último hacker da 3a. geração de hackers. >> >> E onde ele diz isso? :) > > https://www.mondo2000.com/2018/01/11/richard-stallman-last-true-hackers-mondo-2000-flashback-1989/ Valeu! Adorei ler. O nome é na verdade Steve/n/ Levy. Ele escreveu Hackers (Heroes of the Computer Revolution) Steven Levy, Dell Publishing, 1984, ISBN 0-385-19195-2. e é lá que ele diz que Stallman é o ``The Last of the Hackers''. Quero ler esse livro---não sabia que existia. Valeu mesmo. --8<-------------------------------------------------------->8--- M2: Your value system would not necessarily prevent you from taking from people who are trying to be proprietary, from grabbing it, using it, and making your own changes. RS: Right. Software hoarding is a crime. If I can thwart that crime successfully, protect its victims, then I will do it. All the people who sell software are guilty of this crime. --8<-------------------------------------------------------->8--- Ele então está no mesmo lado do time Library Genesis, da Alexandra Elbakyan do sci-hub et cetera.