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Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.*

From Moses <moses.mason@gmail.com>
Newsgroups news.groups.proposals
Subject Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.*
Date 2026-03-17 10:03 -0400
Organization Illuminati
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I do not read this group regularly and only discovered this
proposal today. I must say that I strongly oppose it. The
talk.* hierarchy, along with other hierarchies, contains
many historical articles. Removing these groups would cause
those articles to be lost permanently. Not to mention that
there are still many active groups among those you propose
to remove.

Please crosspost to those groups as well if you plan to
propose their removal in the future. You may be surprised to
find that many of them are still active.


>>>>> "Julien" == Julien ÉLIE <iulius@nom-de-mon-site.com.invalid> writes:

    Julien> Hi all, A second discussion with the example of
    Julien> the talk.* hierarchy.  It clearly shows a
    Julien> different use than what we are accustomed to
    Julien> here in news.*, so it could lead to an
    Julien> interesting discussion about a possible
    Julien> rationalization.  (I guess that humanities.*,
    Julien> misc.* and soc.* will have similarities with
    Julien> talk.* current usage, and that comp.* will
    Julien> rather look like news.*; rec.* and sci.* a mix
    Julien> of them.)

    Julien> I would propose to keep the following newsgroups
    Julien> which are still relevant and/or active:

    Julien> talk.abortion All sorts of discussions and
    Julien> arguments on abortion.  talk.atheism Debate
    Julien> about the validity and nature of atheism.
    Julien> talk.bizarre The unusual, bizarre, curious, and
    Julien> often interesting.  talk.environment Discussion
    Julien> the state of the environment & what to do.
    Julien> talk.euthanasia All aspects of euthanasia.
    Julien> talk.origins Evolution versus creationism
    Julien> (sometimes hot!). (Moderated)
    Julien> talk.philosophy.humanism Humanism in the modern
    Julien> world.  talk.philosophy.misc Philosophical
    Julien> musings on all topics.  talk.politics.animals
    Julien> The use and/or abuse of animals.
    Julien> talk.politics.crypto The relation between
    Julien> cryptography and government.
    Julien> talk.politics.drugs The politics of drug issues.
    Julien> talk.politics.european-union The EU and
    Julien> political integration in Europe.
    Julien> talk.politics.guns The politics of firearm
    Julien> ownership and (mis)use.  talk.politics.medicine
    Julien> The politics and ethics involved with health
    Julien> care.  talk.politics.mideast Discussion & debate
    Julien> over Middle Eastern events.  talk.politics.misc
    Julien> Political discussions and ravings of all kinds.
    Julien> talk.politics.soviet Discussion of Soviet
    Julien> politics, domestic and foreign.
    Julien> talk.politics.theory Theory of politics and
    Julien> political systems.

    Julien> The rationale is that they are still used for
    Julien> discussions between several people.



    Julien> And we could discuss the removal of:

    Julien> talk.answers Repository for periodic USENET
    Julien> articles. (Moderated) talk.politics.china
    Julien> Discussion of political issues related to China.
    Julien> talk.politics.libertarian Libertarian politics &
    Julien> political philosophy.  talk.politics.tibet The
    Julien> politics of Tibet and the Tibetan people.
    Julien> talk.rape Discussions on stopping rape; not to
    Julien> be crossposted.  talk.religion.bahai Discussion
    Julien> of the Baha'i Faith.  talk.religion.buddhism All
    Julien> aspects of Buddhism as religion and philosophy.
    Julien> talk.religion.course-miracle A Course in
    Julien> Miracles.  talk.religion.misc Religious,
    Julien> ethical, & moral implications.
    Julien> talk.religion.newage Esoteric and minority
    Julien> religions & philosophies.
    Julien> talk.religion.pantheism Pantheism in general.
    Julien> talk.rumors For the posting of rumors.
    Julien> talk.us.rhode-island Issues related to the State
    Julien> of Rhode Island, USA.

    Julien> They are either spammed (like
    Julien> talk.politics.china), empty (like talk.answers),
    Julien> links to various articles without actual
    Julien> discussion (like talk.ripe) or only the place
    Julien> for monologs (at least the other newsgroups in
    Julien> talk.* have a semblance of discussion).

    Julien> Even the only poster in
    Julien> talk.religion.course-miracle asked in March 2025
    Julien> whether someone else was still reading this
    Julien> newsgroups, without any answer
    Julien> (<vq36u8$12bu9$1@dont-email.me>).


    Julien> Any thoughts about that proposal?

    Julien> -- Julien ÉLIE

    Julien> « La raison du plus fou est toujours la
    Julien> meilleure. » (Raymond Devos)

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RfD: Rationalization of talk.* Julien ÉLIE <iulius@nom-de-mon-site.com.invalid> - 2026-01-07 20:59 -0500
  Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.* Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> - 2026-02-06 12:02 -0500
  Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.* David Chmelik <dchmelik@gmail.com> - 2026-03-02 16:38 -0500
  Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.* Moses <moses.mason@gmail.com> - 2026-03-17 10:03 -0400
    Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.* Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-03-17 15:38 -0400
      Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.* Moses <moses.mason@gmail.com> - 2026-03-18 07:28 -0400
        Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.* Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-03-18 15:46 -0400
          Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.* Moses <moses.mason@gmail.com> - 2026-03-19 05:43 -0400
        Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.* Julien ÉLIE <iulius@nom-de-mon-site.com.invalid> - 2026-03-19 05:20 -0400
          Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.* Moses <moses.mason@gmail.com> - 2026-03-19 15:01 -0400
            Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.* gmc@metro.cx (Koen Martens) - 2026-05-10 13:20 -0400
              Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.* Michael Bäuerle <michael.baeuerle@gmx.net> - 2026-05-11 07:28 -0400
                Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.* The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> - 2026-05-11 08:13 -0400
              Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.* noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2026-05-11 07:29 -0400
              Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.* Steve Bonine <spb@pobox.com> - 2026-05-14 15:35 -0400
                Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.* The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> - 2026-05-14 23:12 -0400
                Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.* gmc@metro.cx (Koen Martens) - 2026-05-15 04:39 -0400
                Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.* noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2026-05-15 11:21 -0400
                Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.* The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> - 2026-05-15 11:22 -0400
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              Re: RfD: Rationalization of talk.* Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-05-16 05:47 -0400

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