Re: Planned obsolescence ? (*BSD, Rust)

From	Christopher Huhn <C.Huhn@gsi.de>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.ports.alpha
Subject	Re: Planned obsolescence ? (*BSD, Rust)
Date	2025-11-04 13:10 +0100
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Am 03.11.25 um 23:20 schrieb Jan-Daniel Kaplanski:
>> Yes, 20 year old hardware is looking ancient and retro.
> To specify, I was refering to x86-64-v1 hw when I said "reasonably large 
> amount of users". As I wrote already, that hw is still in mainstream use 
> in the form of used Core2Duo-era office PCs that gained a second life as 
> someone's home PC.
> 
>> There is no practical reason to use Linux on any of those [...]
> Except for homelabers, in enterprise environments (legacy software!) or 
> lab environments (specialised hardware peripherals), etc.

FYI: CERN has started to look into replacing RHEL with Debian on the 
Front End Computers of the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) especially 
*because* ~ 50% of the installed hardware does only provide support for 
x86_64-v1 and cannot be operated with RHEL9 and above.
This hardware is essential for keeping the LHC running (at least until 
2035?) and operating it with RHEL 7 until then is apparently not feasible.

See 
https://indico.cern.ch/event/1477299/contributions/6363918/attachments/3044399/5378883/20250403-HEPiX-cern-els7.pdf 
(esp. slide 7 and slide 34)

So dropping x86_64-v1 would be a bummer for them – and probably also for 
Debian?

Best

Christopher

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