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Re: Hard Rust requirements from May onward

From Paul Tagliamonte <paultag@debian.org>
Newsgroups linux.debian.devel, linux.debian.ports.68k, linux.debian.ports.hppa, linux.debian.ports.superh, linux.debian.ports.alpha
Subject Re: Hard Rust requirements from May onward
Date 2025-11-01 15:20 +0100
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:wq

On Sat, Nov 1, 2025, 10:10 AM Paul Tagliamonte <paultag@debian.org> wrote:

> Thanks for your hard work on this -
>
> This will impact unofficial ports, which have already had to contend with
> Rusts widespread adoption of rust in lieu of C in places like Rust's crypto
> ecosystem
>


Sorry typo on my phone

> contend with rust's widespread adoption in lieu of C in places like
python's crypto ecosystem



> However, it's definitely more of a symptom rather than a cause of port
> bitrot - the impact of rust on ports has a simple solution -- help
> maintaining the port with rust upstream. I would encourage anyone upset by
> this -- frankly -- welcome news to help ensure rust has a stable port on
> your favorite arch.
>
> Paul
>
> :wq
>
> On Fri, Oct 31, 2025, 4:49 PM Julian Andres Klode <jak@debian.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I plan to introduce hard Rust dependencies and Rust code into
>> APT, no earlier than May 2026. This extends at first to the
>> Rust compiler and standard library, and the Sequoia ecosystem.
>>
>> In particular, our code to parse .deb, .ar, .tar, and the
>> HTTP signature verification code would strongly benefit
>> from memory safe languages and a stronger approach to
>> unit testing.
>>
>> If you maintain a port without a working Rust toolchain,
>> please ensure it has one within the next 6 months, or
>> sunset the port.
>>
>> It's important for the project as whole to be able to
>> move forward and rely on modern tools and technologies
>> and not be held back by trying to shoehorn modern software
>> on retro computing devices.
>>
>> Thank you for your understanding.
>> --
>> debian developer - deb.li/jak | jak-linux.org - free software dev
>> ubuntu core developer                              i speak de, en
>>
>

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Hard Rust requirements from May onward Julian Andres Klode <jak@debian.org> - 2025-10-31 21:50 +0100
  Re: Hard Rust requirements from May onward Julian Andres Klode <jak@debian.org> - 2025-10-31 22:50 +0100
  Re: Hard Rust requirements from May onward Paul Tagliamonte <paultag@debian.org> - 2025-11-01 15:20 +0100
    Re: Hard Rust requirements from May onward Paul Tagliamonte <paultag@debian.org> - 2025-11-01 15:20 +0100
    Re: Hard Rust requirements from May onward Bill Allombert <ballombe@debian.org> - 2025-11-02 15:40 +0100
  Re: Hard Rust requirements from May onward Joerg Jaspert <joerg@debian.org> - 2025-11-02 13:10 +0100
    Re: Hard Rust requirements from May onward Julian Andres Klode <jak@debian.org> - 2025-11-02 17:30 +0100
      Re: Hard Rust requirements from May onward Joerg Jaspert <joerg@debian.org> - 2025-11-02 17:40 +0100
    Re: Hard Rust requirements from May onward Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2025-11-05 16:00 +0100

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