Path: csiph.com!goblin3!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!aioe.org!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: Thomas Goirand Newsgroups: linux.debian.maint.python Subject: Re: python-networkx_1.10-1_amd64.changes ACCEPTED into experimental Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2015 09:40:02 +0200 Message-ID: References: X-Original-To: debian-python@lists.debian.org X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-python-request@lists.debian.org Tue Oct 6 07:38:58 2015 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.6 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, FOURLA=0.1, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: using cached result; rate:hard: -5 Organization: Debian User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/31.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/12807 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/56137A7E.7020008@debian.org Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 51 Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2015 09:38:38 +0200 X-Original-Message-ID: <56137A7E.7020008@debian.org> X-Original-References: <20150929094816.69da6b32@limelight.wooz.org> <560BA2F3.2080407@debian.org> <561228AC.3090103@debian.org> <5612724E.9060007@debian.org> <20151005171754.565f62c5@limelight.wooz.org> Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.maint.python:7495 On 10/05/2015 11:17 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Oct 06, 2015, at 07:00 AM, Robert Collins wrote: >=20 >> The things you listed that I help maintain - mock, testtools, etc - >> are *not* OpenStack specific. They existed before OpenStack, and >> likely will exist after. They have other users, particularly mock >> which is very widely used. >=20 > I intensely dislike the separation between OS and DPMT, for exactly thi= s > reason. Too many packages of general use to Python developers is out o= f reach > of DPMT. I thought it was mostly a vcs-induced separation It was indeed. > but now I think > it's clear that even after DPMT moves to git, this separation will cont= inue. Unfortunately, yes. Of course, I do want to keep my write accesses for these packages, so even if it was my intention to put them all under the DPMT, I don't see how it can happen now. I wouldn't even be able to write the packages in /git/python-modules if I wanted to... Thought everyone is welcome in the PKG OpenStack team, and it is accepted for anyone to commit, or even upload, as long as it doesn't break everything at once (and even if you do, it's ok, we'll just figure out together how to revert...). >> So I'm +1 on "Check reverse deps aren't significantly broken before >> uploading to unstable" as a general principle, not as an OpenStack >> specific thing. >=20 > +1 also Sure. That's not at all OpenStack specific. > but it's always going to be a spot check for sanity so things will > fall through the cracks. Until we get something like the promotion tes= ts, we > just have to commit ourselves to being diligent within reason before > uploading, and responsible to help fix breakages after they're discover= ed. Is the proposal to have a CI that would rebuild packages for us against a proposed update, so it can be tested before an upload? Cheers, Thomas Goirand (zigo)