Path: csiph.com!news.mixmin.net!aioe.org!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: Sandro Tosi Newsgroups: linux.debian.maint.python Subject: Re: python-networkx_1.10-1_amd64.changes ACCEPTED into experimental Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 12:50:02 +0200 Message-ID: References: X-Original-To: Dimitri John Ledkov X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-python-request@lists.debian.org Wed Sep 30 10:46:36 2015 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.4 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FOURLA=0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.198, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: using cached result; rate: -7 Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=qaynZTdJiat8xaX6oO+WEE0CXtYwM+OTcog3M1Rb1KQ=; b=mblV75vcfzENBslFqbAoSoIup0pUVhDsXF5NT3QnvOzTat2xMfAhR1WWUiTltA8ZAq tjNjlVdoML+TIDVILlg2UpIDWTmPUVh6q1zJHaH1g6TtK0vQDHyPGcQ2p+nAqIUpbfy0 ueOsblEukF+cm/jElnGSPbev4lbsj6QkmlscIzx2WFOP3NSe9Sc/duhfwiBPFxjroqo3 Gi3dZO+azMQOIEtCBZ1aDDSCBYW1IfRfRFp18AW+sNgUeegi4DcVaOCTWWMTh2jfIuac wIEh8Eo6foAi7a9xQk8eo9ow/Y0CPHqn5f4+uRg0AYrlck4amZtShcbPABXP/m5oZ/N8 v0aA== X-Received: by 10.25.150.83 with SMTP id y80mr561399lfd.119.1443609979682; Wed, 30 Sep 2015 03:46:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Google-Sender-Auth: LcEuO-inMmPjZZ4sTBXmlxD1CeA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/12680 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/CAB4XWXwpFJOe4y5UaGEBif74izS5ahVuc7Vyj=w2=eZdKdSEEg@mail.gmail.com Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 44 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway X-Original-Cc: Thomas Kluyver , debian-python X-Original-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 11:45:49 +0100 X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-References: <20150929094816.69da6b32@limelight.wooz.org> <560BA2F3.2080407@debian.org> <1443605164.4082006.397365553.506FCC80@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Original-Sender: sandro.tosi@gmail.com Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.maint.python:7368 > I see nothing wrong with Goirand's upload. I believe Sandro Tosi is > still using the pre-binNMU, pre-NMU, pre-LowNMU, pre-Team packaging > maintenance mentality which is not the commonly accepted behaviour and > mentality in Debian anymore. this is not a binNMU (which is irrelevant here), nor a NMU (even though lintian warned it was), nor my packages are in lowNMU list (so, again, irrelevant), it is indeed maintained in the DPMT, which has a set of rules called policy. are you asserting that it's perfectly fine to ignore the policy which should bind our work in this team? > Sando, if you don't like something in > particular about a particular upload you should fix those points and > re-upload and e.g. send an email with a diff to the last uploader with > code review and comments. what? so $random_developer arrives, changes the packages, does mistakes, uploads nonetheless, I should happily fix them, and then let them know what was wrong? so why shouldnt that very same $random_developer get in touch with the maintainer who has done the work so far? > Complaining about the maintainer vs uploader > policy does not improve the package in question. nor is uploading a package just for their own interest and then let the maintainer fix the mistakes done. This has happened in the past, most of the times with Thomas, that's enough. > As all uploads - good > and bad - are always done with only best intentions in mind, do take > that into account. Nobody is trying to attack you, your packages, or > somehow sabotage Debian. I dont think you can assert what others' intentions are (even if good faith *can* be assumed), still shielding behind the "team maintenance" to do whatever one pleases is WRONG! stop being apologetic for such behavior. -- Sandro Tosi (aka morph, morpheus, matrixhasu) My website: http://matrixhasu.altervista.org/ Me at Debian: http://wiki.debian.org/SandroTosi