Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.albasani.net!tahina.priv.at!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: Dimitri John Ledkov Newsgroups: linux.debian.maint.python Subject: Re: python-networkx_1.10-1_amd64.changes ACCEPTED into experimental Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 12:30:04 +0200 Message-ID: References: X-Original-To: Thomas Kluyver , Sandro Tosi X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-python-request@lists.debian.org Wed Sep 30 10:27:21 2015 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.599 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FOURLA=0.1, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: NOT_IN_SBL_XBL_SPAMHAUS=-1.5 NOT_IN_BL_NJABL=-1.5 CL_IP_EQ_HELO_IP=-2 (check from: .surgut. - helo: .mail-la0-x236.google. - helo-domain: .google.) FROM/MX_MATCHES_NOT_HELO(DOMAIN)=0; rate: -5 Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=surgut.co.uk; s=google; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=6pbx/Kjove+YkpRyyR7TrXaOA5cnoyFApqZSOftwW50=; b=Kxd4109mApwW7yvkwnLepIOc+DQuXfqoitj2TcuRsZrEBNZOisvHyf1bk4fGwZFynV arkh/kAaDyYPTjXvk5qqwQ+Uf5QmsZUZzpyDQ93GhJbmPI0L3OGuaJdwf6znyG43SGH9 KdCmT/wlAMBUh1VIXk6YOQWu300lL3HpI+V4g= X-Google-Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=6pbx/Kjove+YkpRyyR7TrXaOA5cnoyFApqZSOftwW50=; b=V+s7EyI54Ry4mz0EeUEGOyZ6bhgqueFhY1sv58ZWqKzibLoqaFIUrKOI7FrwlZCBu4 8hlm2KRQg5umaPaDpLLb7GJAgMPMdD1ucHWYJRiyOqq0UXOyNVEBtjqUsvL2+1QzReje 6J8AXtcvhJEc/wR3qk6Osaiyv6UtXI48v24rjLCKt7tTQ8jcXz8+7Em7B4ySiskyUFoz KpbQSFJdbWJ1qmJWDLQRdYjf2C/Hab96GOc4ikN5OXNBSOVYOgzmgP2D7m7IGwr021Vw W6NR5rcxJUPFdBBBIx33I5DC7u7zViCWLd+0M9sLr9jMGPiWjiD1ecteIo51a+qNX1RJ xf5A== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnR1XdAxFdt3QRYB8DxNrt54vaXpzAqR0CLATPZR8iHNnKuFYpdvITj6twwj3HODF+GPwNW MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.32.72 with SMTP id g8mr847839lbi.22.1443608822732; Wed, 30 Sep 2015 03:27:02 -0700 (PDT) Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Originating-IP: [192.198.151.43] X-Google-Sender-Auth: X-PJnx4XG4Oj8NX43ibBIZBHLEc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/12678 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/CANBHLUh6pFRyxZkQzNW-zDbEWZhuj8swaeZn29fBjO4h6JQGJw@mail.gmail.com Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 33 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway X-Original-Cc: debian-python X-Original-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 11:27:02 +0100 X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-References: <20150929094816.69da6b32@limelight.wooz.org> <560BA2F3.2080407@debian.org> <1443605164.4082006.397365553.506FCC80@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Original-Sender: dimitri.ledkov@surgut.co.uk Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.maint.python:7367 On 30 September 2015 at 10:26, Thomas Kluyver wrote: > On Wed, Sep 30, 2015, at 01:53 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: >> This has driven >> some contributors away in the past, thinking we don't have team spirit. >> IMO, that's truth, and this kind of thread is hurting again. > > Just to back this up: watching threads like this go past makes working > on/with Debian look very uninviting. At times it seems like DPMT is more > interested in quoting sections of policy at one another than in actually > making stuff work. It looks absolutely like there's no team spirit, > unless you all keep it carefully hidden from the mailing list. If this > is what you're like even to other people with @debian.org email > addresses, I don't want to try doing anything within Debian. > > Thomas K > I see nothing wrong with Goirand's upload. I believe Sandro Tosi is still using the pre-binNMU, pre-NMU, pre-LowNMU, pre-Team packaging maintenance mentality which is not the commonly accepted behaviour and mentality in Debian anymore. Sando, if you don't like something in particular about a particular upload you should fix those points and re-upload and e.g. send an email with a diff to the last uploader with code review and comments. Complaining about the maintainer vs uploader policy does not improve the package in question. As all uploads - good and bad - are always done with only best intentions in mind, do take that into account. Nobody is trying to attack you, your packages, or somehow sabotage Debian. -- Regards, Dimitri.