Path: csiph.com!goblin3!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!aioe.org!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: Sandro Tosi Newsgroups: linux.debian.maint.python Subject: Re: Maintainer vs. Uploaders Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 11:30:02 +0200 Message-ID: References: X-Original-To: debian-python X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-python-request@lists.debian.org Wed Sep 30 09:25:09 2015 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.78 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.198, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, MURPHY_DRUGS_REL8=0.02] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: using cached result; rate: -7 Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=PJ9imnGktQeT7Pua3J8AtbWV/JskaqMfFokOsxZwbVo=; b=ifFoc+FjmoNdAdM5Si/s/DCwW4zIq20xO8rAfamtivkgkUys1qHbbj5vCvBMlP0Q7O r5iC+A5gAm3+rqkj0noEUh7Kyic9J2BFKOlPX86i2yjOQwv/3xYDQWejkE4movFbMfQg /kQ1hUuar9Tx4ctFvgn+oD5VFzSsnYlWyPLEc9NEgwr/vpSKVwP29twpm5km1n+XZzvY P7mTrpBJeHcTu73/savhfU1eVGo9cU0dMermrvaALGgVEmYPqyXIkLL8juxzj5uiomaz z+93aJxomZEoGMn64qdRIddstu1pHPYJ32fitCmaaR1NAGNwcgOxLgV3gWYumrRMlsVS KVzw== X-Received: by 10.25.150.83 with SMTP id y80mr490572lfd.119.1443605092210; Wed, 30 Sep 2015 02:24:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Google-Sender-Auth: l8g8RiDxCN_X9O3BzGueoc7BtIc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/12676 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/CAB4XWXxcuL-t0=xYt7o3khYJshNQXS+yb3BsLQBJr=FTWcQnfQ@mail.gmail.com Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 59 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway X-Original-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 10:24:22 +0100 X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-References: <20150929094816.69da6b32@limelight.wooz.org> <20150929143045.GK6768@sar0.p1otr.com> X-Original-Sender: sandro.tosi@gmail.com Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.maint.python:7366 On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 3:30 PM, Piotr O=C5=BCarowski wr= ote: > [Barry Warsaw, 2015-09-29] >> How should the change be acknowledged by the >> maintainer? Should I Cc the mailing list when I contact the maintainer?= Is > > do we really need a written policy how to contact fellow co-maintainer? > Ping on IRC, send an email, send a message via xmpp or phone, ... use > whatever you usually use to contact any other Debian maintainer. > > An example message: > "I just commited some changes in foo related to bar. Please take a look, > I plan to upload it to unstable in a day or two. Let me know if I should > wait a bit longer or if you're not OK with these changes. Thanks" > > I think such message to all Uploaders who clearly know more about given > package than I do is a good practice even if team is listed in > Maintainer field. I don't think sending such message after fixing a typo > is needed, but it's definitely a must when someone replaces dh with > cdbs or vice versa. > >> it okay to commit to vcs but not upload? How long do you wait for feedb= ack >> before you can do the upload? > > yes, it's always OK to commit changes (which can be reverted). It's not O= K > to force someone else to maintain these changes by uploading it. > >> Should we have some automated tools to help out here? I'm not sure wher= e to > > no, we already have -commits mailing list which nobody reads. Yet > another reason why team should be in Uploaders and not in Maintainer > field. > >> Do all team members understand the implications when they set the two fi= elds? >> Some maintainers may not really care and may have been less conscientiou= s >> about setting the fields. > > Maintainer vs Uploaders rules needs to be moved to policy. I will > propose a patch to the policy soon (I'd prefer a native speaker to do > it, though) > >> The wiki says that the general rule of thumb is to set the team as Maint= ainer, >> to which I agree. > > I don't (due to "package and forget" issue) +1 on everything you wrote --=20 Sandro Tosi (aka morph, morpheus, matrixhasu) My website: http://matrixhasu.altervista.org/ Me at Debian: http://wiki.debian.org/SandroTosi