Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!aioe.org!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: Barry Warsaw Newsgroups: linux.debian.maint.python Subject: Re: I've been removed from the Python team Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2015 20:20:02 +0200 Message-ID: References: X-Original-To: debian-python@lists.debian.org X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-python-request@lists.debian.org Thu Oct 1 18:11:51 2015 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-12 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, PGPSIGNATURE=-5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: using cached result; rate: -5 Organization: The Organization of Unorganized Woozalists X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.12.0 (GTK+ 2.24.28; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; boundary="Sig_/q14S=0zrR345s+kn6cJJ6m0"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/12706 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/20151001141129.1e4c52ab@limelight.wooz.org Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 62 Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2015 14:11:29 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: <20151001141129.1e4c52ab@limelight.wooz.org> X-Original-References: <560C3ACD.9000905@debian.org> Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.maint.python:7395 --Sig_/q14S=0zrR345s+kn6cJJ6m0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Oct 01, 2015, at 07:47 PM, Vincent Bernat wrote: >I am a bit worried that the team is handled behind closed walls. I have no particular interest in either grabbing power nor in taking power away from anybody, but I think there may be some value in making team governance more transparent and democratic. Two reasons come to mind: No one person has to take the heat for uncomfortable decisions. At some po= int decisions have to be made for the good of the team, whether they're technic= al or social. What might be difficult for one person to decide can be made easier when the burden of that decision can be shared among duly elected representatives. Team members can have more of a say --and more confidence in-- how the team= is run. If you elect someone to a leadership role, you're giving your support= to them to make the tough decisions. And you have the option of voting them o= ut at the next election. I don't think any of that's controversial, given that the Debian project itself is both transparent and democratic, and we always have those governa= nce rules to fall back on. But that's a pretty heavyweight bureaucracy. Does it make sense to have some lightweight rules for the team? Is there precedence within other Debian teams? Cheers, -Barry --Sig_/q14S=0zrR345s+kn6cJJ6m0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJWDXdSAAoJEBJutWOnSwa/JcQP/jqF34j1tcKBil/IALb3+5l3 R+UY9ztegFYA8KN1y3yPjpGO7KPiwlcRmT0/qTjIxQk73n7qxD7Iqq80GmNI1ue5 FJREyWLs2U9IuzHYja6CETtHz2sjVY2ZSK9wGr29YUiYciStGbMWgFQiK+4Y663p 074V7CX505oUIKcXqRyO/EOBRyHaekjaK28RYklUcXkJZhNT9upwfmiznho/Gyx1 x+WXT3jiijKiAYtBKvt3PA7z7rUTDBT3BCYqe3VDBR9jQFbtUBKrEb3xF+EF1F7s n6WQP/HXkELbdAR+FNrUY25G2OqC1+jrDnxtf5uybFoiK0jkIMu//2WMor4QhaaZ Me3MvqOBPxrdM9tC9UFxWnlWQFEsYs6sWUb+Q5tOtCleHidRrZvWbQZE9bKdGTx8 8fJy6mG6SwGTNhQNQQpYRgF2z5hNqhGW0dpR7MFvrQaTJvw4uy0KRNZf55XSwlwE qHuhpJ2mca9KbJoxpx+uTSzDo+MOpzY4TW39nWxxB6PrGZOMQK/5YxZUzwe8uOie qx2rhQSr13ajxVAWuMGaxacx+5CmxaU9AQm15Sp+Umm4jqK/smPu1kmr3/SWaxPe Mkjsyn2Q5lkNEZhSjr0WqpULS4UNczWeh0b5yZB/X5OB83EGlDcAkusk4HB2PfY0 KI87jHhMcqMRSGNlto3v =5qaU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/q14S=0zrR345s+kn6cJJ6m0--