Path: csiph.com!aioe.org!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: Dimitri John Ledkov Newsgroups: linux.debian.maint.python Subject: Re: -nspkg.pth and .pth files - should we get rid of them? Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 14:40:02 +0200 Message-ID: References: X-Original-To: Julien Cristau Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1] autolearn=no X-Policyd-Weight: NOT_IN_SBL_XBL_SPAMHAUS=-1.5 NOT_IN_BL_NJABL=-1.5 CL_IP_EQ_HELO_IP=-2 (check from: .surgut. - helo: .mail-la0-x235.google. - helo-domain: .google.) FROM/MX_MATCHES_NOT_HELO(DOMAIN)=0; rate: -5 Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=surgut.co.uk; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=HWygnB1r59J5aXJXoYsQS7Uiz6lJ0muopnpoKnaI7Lc=; b=MpQeFkB5UPrkGgHIZXud8kdNt41pxsAgclIy73i31S09qufTsLh20yrp2AEn9BmLO6 S0phcDFyHeMVOsotT5aKDjvfTIRyyjrjNDj8RTDBC6QdUTDu3b3vUA2KZLAgDzE/u2gu FYkKfv4h4eacIen3MtW1rPxMpFiuxqTTKVEQQ= X-Google-Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=HWygnB1r59J5aXJXoYsQS7Uiz6lJ0muopnpoKnaI7Lc=; b=AyV0pDOzkODqJNdM4opciePuBjzQatZDxigMJNRWgTbznlvFPsuQ/KbuhRUWTHbuSt 5ODsqI5B6Xxrlbe6uA3XtTsL6U3IQ/t/rUqaM70SYFIb/1vxLloIVP38FUQoO5Np2Js1 PmAMsruZZnXOO3bjIG7fxv5w2ibEaNRnjLHIkFPU4NqDEQbRrLd/qBVH5gvFElCvIttT 9mK8LLH1nL1tvJr4ccYf3ko0TSnxh96K6sHZb+GTgOUKv0GTtajYH4wQrF45GCw57OkN tGbQ9ATo8dE4xao/gzGhQ60xFUkGsszXN/i2pGY91oyVcvq9SSDQba15lxTkeHBZdvm6 Kk2A== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmXyIwu4QCvFNaGeNAdkVm2dmQLajESlr7xbXFlvvoP6bSj3tzFQuXOuPNJxtXnmsDsC14h MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.36.41 with SMTP id n9mr27590036laj.79.1437394341504; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 05:12:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [86.14.120.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/12424 List-ID: List-URL: Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 35 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Cc: Barry Warsaw , debian-python X-Original-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 13:12:21 +0100 X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-References: <20150719192831.GD25549@p1otr.com> <20150720072935.GA1918@sh76.dev.logilab.fr> <20150720075655.GE18403@sar0.p1otr.com> <20150720080015.GB1918@sh76.dev.logilab.fr> <20150720111214.GC1918@sh76.dev.logilab.fr> <20150720075813.0252b8aa@anarchist.wooz.org> <20150720120404.GE1918@sh76.dev.logilab.fr> Xref: aioe.org linux.debian.maint.python:7123 On 20 July 2015 at 13:04, Julien Cristau wrote: > On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 07:58:13 -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote: > >> On Jul 20, 2015, at 01:12 PM, Julien Cristau wrote: >> >> >Is that a serious question? Why should debian-python, for no good >> >reason, break things that work just fine? >> >> Because it doesn't really work well when you are supporting both Python 2 and >> Python 3. For example, if you have the 'foo' namespace with submodules 'bar' >> and 'baz', you can't write a foo/__init__.py that supports old-style >> namespaces for Python 2 and PEP 420 style namespaces for Python 3 because in >> the latter *you can't have an __init__.py at all*. >> > That's exactly why Debian shouldn't mess with it. If upstream is > python3-only, they can remove __init__.py and go PEP420. If not, they > can use old-style namespaces on both python versions, and there's no > reason for Debian to break that IMO. Would it be fair to have a goal to only have PEP420 style namespaces in python3 world? And if there are upstreams that don't do that now, work with them to achieve this and/or cpython/setuptools/distutils upstream. -- Regards, Dimitri. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-python-REQUEST@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CANBHLUjb4+KtnEDAKDTg=KBxNc-hjFfEU3sUekGQ9uZmXwpwbw@mail.gmail.com