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Re: Bug#1115706: Not installable with python3-cryptography >= 44

From	Stefano Rivera <stefanor@debian.org>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.maint.python, linux.debian.bugs.dist
Subject	Re: Bug#1115706: Not installable with python3-cryptography >= 44
Date	2025-09-19 17:30 +0200
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Hi Simon (2025.09.19_13:10:16_+0000)
>Does anyone have thoughts on why some python packages use << versioning
>on build dependencies even when there are no such versions released?

You sometimes see this. It's over-protective IMHO.

We don't always do this. Packages need to declare PEP386 (in practice 
PEP440) compliance for dh_python3 to do this. Or you have to pass 
--accept-upstream-versions.
That's probably worth re-visiting, because everything is PEP440 
compliant, these days.

>If this a python cultural upstream thing, is this something that should
>be mirrored in Debian's Depends: versioning?

It's problematic for us to not mirror it, because then you can have 
packages installed that don't have their dependencies met. pip doesn't 
like that. pkg_resources (IIRC) used to also get quite up set about it.

So, typically patching the upstream dependencies is appropriate in these 
situations.

Stefano

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Re: Bug#1115706: Not installable with python3-cryptography >= 44 Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org> - 2025-09-19 15:20 +0200
  Re: Bug#1115706: Not installable with python3-cryptography >= 44 Stefano Rivera <stefanor@debian.org> - 2025-09-19 17:30 +0200
    Re: Bug#1115706: Not installable with python3-cryptography >= 44 Stefano Rivera <stefanor@debian.org> - 2025-09-19 18:00 +0200
      Re: Bug#1115706: Not installable with python3-cryptography >= 44 Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org> - 2025-09-19 18:30 +0200

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