Path: csiph.com!news.samoylyk.net!gothmog.csi.it!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: Stefano Rivera Newsgroups: linux.debian.maint.python Subject: Re: /usr/bin/python3 deprecation and enforcing /usr/bin/python Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2025 19:00:01 +0100 Message-ID: References: X-Original-To: debian-python@lists.debian.org X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-python-request@lists.debian.org Fri Nov 14 17:52:56 2025 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.391 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FOURLA=0.1, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, SARE_MSGID_LONG45=0.893, SARE_MSGID_LONG50=0.726, USER_IN_DKIM_WELCOMELIST=-0.01, USER_IN_DKIM_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: using cached result; rate:hard: -4.6 X-Greylist: delayed 427 seconds by postgrey-1.36 at bendel; Fri, 14 Nov 2025 17:52:40 UTC Mail-Followup-To: debian-python@lists.debian.org X-Gpg-Public-Key: http://www.rivera.za.net/stefano.gpg MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: NeoMutt/20250510 X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/23360 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/vrj2v34qgjb3rlptq3cjnnrshaxmirh5hpacvm5ioaa64lqkvg@mueqclb2yfng Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 25 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2025 17:45:31 +0000 X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-References: <87ldkbxnd7.fsf@angela.anarc.at> Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.maint.python:17155 Hi Antoine (2025.11.12_15:49:08_+0000) >I've been wondering whether it's time we finally make this >change. Concretely, I think it means: > > 1. deprecating /usr/bin/python3 > 2. shipping Python 3 as /usr/bin/python directly > >I think we should do this for Debian 14 (forky), and stop shipping >python3 altogether in Debian 15 (?). I don't see 1. as a real option at this point. Yes, it'll get less useful to keep /usr/bin/python3 if we have /usr/bin/python, but upstream installs a python3 binary (IIRC mostly because we asked for it) and virtualenv etc. do. Deperaction discussions should probably happen upstream, once we've added /usr/bin/python back. We can start them and say that we're not against it. Stefano -- Stefano Rivera http://tumbleweed.org.za/ +1 415 683 3272