Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!news.nntp4.net!news.hispagatos.org!srl.newsdeef.eu!news.corradoroberto.it!gothmog.csi.it!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: Jerome Kieffer Newsgroups: linux.debian.maint.python Subject: Re: /usr/bin/python3 deprecation and enforcing /usr/bin/python Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2025 18:10:01 +0100 Message-ID: References: X-Original-To: debian-python@lists.debian.org X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-python-request@lists.debian.org Wed Nov 12 17:01:07 2025 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.196 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_SAFE_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: using cached result; rate: -4.6 X-Greylist: delayed 433 seconds by postgrey-1.36 at bendel; Wed, 12 Nov 2025 17:00:51 UTC X-Cse-Connectionguid: Dh+8UIeXQOysEWtd+Okc6A== X-Cse-Msgguid: seHwhOZHSMml5ZCsEOPtKw== X-Ironport-Av: E=Sophos;i="6.19,299,1754949600"; d="scan'208";a="20595636" Organization: ESRF X-Mailer: Claws Mail 4.3.1 (GTK 3.24.49; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/23344 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/20251112175335.5f64f705@lintaillefer.esrf.fr Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 46 Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2025 17:53:35 +0100 X-Original-Message-ID: <20251112175335.5f64f705@lintaillefer.esrf.fr> X-Original-References: <87ldkbxnd7.fsf@angela.anarc.at> Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.maint.python:17143 Hi, I am against deprecating python3 ... it is used a bit everywhere and every `venv` provides both python and python3. What will occur when python4 arrives ? Cheers, Jerome On Wed, 12 Nov 2025 10:49:08 -0500 Antoine Beaupr=C3=A9 wrote: > Hi! >=20 > Debian has shipped Python 3 as /usr/bin/python3 for a while now. For > some time, we've also shipped a python-is-python3 package that ships a > symlink from /usr/bin/python to /usr/bin/python as well, but it's not > installed by default. >=20 > I'm assuming that most distributions outside of Debian, at this point, > have shipped /usr/bin/python as Python 3 for couple of years, as far as > I know (although I haven't surveyed that formally). >=20 > I've been wondering whether it's time we finally make this > change. Concretely, I think it means: >=20 > 1. deprecating /usr/bin/python3 > 2. shipping Python 3 as /usr/bin/python directly >=20 > I think we should do this for Debian 14 (forky), and stop shipping > python3 altogether in Debian 15 (?). >=20 > Thoughts? >=20 > A. > --=20 > If ease of use was the ultimate aim for a tool, > the bicycle would never have evolved beyond the tricycle. > =E2=80=94 Doug Engelbart, 1925-2013 >=20 --=20 J=C3=A9r=C3=B4me Kieffer tel +33 476 882 445