Path: csiph.com!news.samoylyk.net!gothmog.csi.it!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: Nilesh Patra Newsgroups: linux.debian.maint.python Subject: Re: Matplotlib 3.10.0 for trixie? Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2025 10:10:01 +0100 Message-ID: References: X-Original-To: Stuart Prescott , Alexandre Detiste X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-python-request@lists.debian.org Tue Mar 18 09:03:14 2025 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.896 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_CERTIFIED_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: using cached result; rate:hard: -4.6 X-Riseup-User-ID: B39A5E3901EE0CF167950EF55EC25C6320C9F524C1FE3A993DE93E40FF0098AC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: en-US Autocrypt: addr=nilesh@riseup.net; keydata= xjMEYzwXMxYJKwYBBAHaRw8BAQdAsv3h7PxLm3vMbvdmN1bVnqUGyr3k2CKtdRmMDrX/jSXN IE5pbGVzaCBQYXRyYSA8bmlsZXNoQHJpc2V1cC5uZXQ+wpAEExYIADgWIQSglbZu4JAkvuai 8HIqJ5BL1yQ+2gUCYzwX4gIbAwULCQgHAgYVCgkICwIEFgIDAQIeAQIXgAAKCRAqJ5BL1yQ+ 2rxKAP91TOXo9msTbJOOWNXkd9hiTCknsyY9FCiJMdvA3uStZQEA6M5JrSB9RgBg0cHf+Brv qJM95WKMBec3CZ58RPXfCwfOOARjPBczEgorBgEEAZdVAQUBAQdAlnuvB8w06//G6pFqAo98 IrNeskq+iLAbSPZ0Tse9zUIDAQgHwngEGBYIACAWIQSglbZu4JAkvuai8HIqJ5BL1yQ+2gUC YzwXMwIbDAAKCRAqJ5BL1yQ+2mzwAP0SR+JseZKh5BThCb5VijeJD2mCNhZFhvKYmlb8y6nb HwD/d3PmHHDDi6JR4oPGuYK/Z+j9tAiV5q8hGZilIFqfgQU= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/22930 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/67fd2756-67bd-47b2-9d99-8d83f6d640bc@riseup.net Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 26 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Cc: James Addison , debian-python@lists.debian.org X-Original-Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2025 14:15:56 +0530 X-Original-Message-ID: <67fd2756-67bd-47b2-9d99-8d83f6d640bc@riseup.net> X-Original-References: <29b74bd1-2181-4bf3-81a6-003cab5df87f@debian.org> <84b7b620-6f18-4f54-a13d-bb38ae0ee839@fsfe.org> <73CF4D23-2E84-40DB-9EBE-D74E9585ED00@riseup.net> <6d4e26d0-5fbd-4893-9264-1fb255111404@riseup.net> <418B4F61-1ADC-49EE-9946-9D31623456CD@riseup.net> <49cca5cb-141f-41b8-9a4c-80d012f586be@debian.org> <8c012556-a734-4a9c-bb49-d3a08a6cbf29@riseup.net> <48ee4362-cc9e-4b83-bf04-e07a4576aae6@debian.org> Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.maint.python:16810 On 18/03/25 12:19, Stuart Prescott wrote: >> When I saw the list yesterday, it showed dozens and dozens of packages running tests. In my previous upload where there >> was a bug, I saw around 20 or so packages failing. >> >> There's only 5 there, likely because it is bad display or things that passed do not show up. On that entire page, you >> will mostly find packages that are _failing_. It is also not correct (or even believable) that only 5 packages in the whole archive ever >> depend on matplotlib for tests given this is a very popular plotting library. >> >> So that statement is incorrect. > > hmm, ok, I'm very happy to be incorrect on that. I did check the excuses pages of some other packages and they seemed to show lots of packages that were passing. That's great news. > > I'm still quite confident that we're undertesting though - I saw on the developer list for src:sasview that it's not compatible with matplotlib 3.10 and yet no flags from any tests are coming up. Like many uses of matplotlib, it probably doesn't even have tests that actually touch the failing code. Realistically, testing reverse-dependencies and reverse-build-dependencies (for which I asked Lucas in another mail) is the maximum we can do here, otherwise we can never make a release :) Do you have some suggestions to get this moving in a better way? With regards to sasview, is the mail publically archived somewhere? The matplotlib version uploaded is a minor release here, with few deprecation and removal of few APIs, replacements for which are readily available. If even after fixing those, if sasview does not work, I'd be quite surprised! > cheers > Stuart Best, Nilesh