Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: eevelweezel Newsgroups: linux.debian.maint.python Subject: Re: Alternative libraries for PEP-594 Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2024 11:40:01 +0200 Message-ID: References: X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-python-request@lists.debian.org Fri Aug 2 09:36:12 2024 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.699 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, BODY_8BITS=1.5, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=2, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SUBENDNUM=2] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: using cached result; rate:hard: -5.5 X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yzni8fM0VZDs0B0VX8wZpRg0j2Vu9dqLBM1G7dj0rYUU+t1PvLo wgR/75BO6Di4DtD97AbNaQLqEPASiEezSt9ZlwZIIV14EpqArYQ27ZYZ2k0ZK/MxgCNLTBeYuDX 14CKD+r6N6UWgbhMhMW7EVqpnloWjb8WyqJ/6aw== X-Google-SMTP-Source: AGHT+IFTIhRd+wF3PYNEldmTc6Vhf98LtzeG8H0yIKSKMwnwWdZXtkY8hSkVFf/HaKL2AyLMahuRwNMVhgIlc2/pF14= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90b:4d12:b0:2c8:5cb7:54e5 with SMTP id 98e67ed59e1d1-2cff952d021mr3495208a91.32.1722591354798; Fri, 02 Aug 2024 02:35:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000cbcb2d061eb00d18" X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/22188 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/CAKjrVyf0Zg9Ah61Sg20Jq0JH+0h40ONjnnNXEoArbMtj0L2JOA@mail.gmail.com Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 115 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2024 04:35:43 -0500 X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-References: <667baffb-2372-4d2e-a033-440d1d687074@debian.org> <5e210eac-a72f-452b-b302-d687c7ea51f3@debian.org> Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.maint.python:16150 --000000000000cbcb2d061eb00d18 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I could work on legacycrypt. On Fri, Aug 2, 2024 at 4:19=E2=80=AFAM Louis-Philippe V=C3=A9ronneau wrote: > On 2024-08-02 17:21, Alexandre Detiste wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I will need some "zombie-telnetlib" (so exactly the same API as > > existing telnetlib) > > because I maintain proprietary .deb (not "Debian packages") that need > > to be installable without rebuild on Buster, Bookworm & Trixie. > > > > I understand that "telnetlib3" / "exscript" are 'better/newer' API but > > that does not fit the need. > > > > Debian could also benefit from this zombie-telnetlib. > > > > Should it be a native package or one with real upstream on PyPi ? > > That was another item we discussed during the 2nd BoF. There are already > some projects like these [1][2] and we were considering packaging them > to ease the 3.13 transition. > > eamanu said he would make a list of upstream projects we could package, > but if you have some time, getting a list of projects would be great. > > If we end up packaging these libraries, I think it should be clear that > they won't be available for Forky (Debian 14). The last thing we want is > to maintain some deprecated zombie-libraries forever in Debian :( > > Cheers, > > [1]: https://github.com/simonrob/pyasyncore > [2]: https://github.com/tiran/legacycrypt > > -- > =E2=A2=80=E2=A3=B4=E2=A0=BE=E2=A0=BB=E2=A2=B6=E2=A3=A6=E2=A0=80 > =E2=A3=BE=E2=A0=81=E2=A2=A0=E2=A0=92=E2=A0=80=E2=A3=BF=E2=A1=81 Louis= -Philippe V=C3=A9ronneau > =E2=A2=BF=E2=A1=84=E2=A0=98=E2=A0=B7=E2=A0=9A=E2=A0=8B pollo@debian.= org / veronneau.org > =E2=A0=88=E2=A0=B3=E2=A3=84 > > --000000000000cbcb2d061eb00d18 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I could work on legacycrypt.

On Fri, Aug 2, 2024 at 4:1= 9=E2=80=AFAM Louis-Philippe V=C3=A9ronneau <pollo@debian.org> wrote:
On 2024-08-02 17:21, Alexandre Detiste wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I will need some "zombie-telnetlib" (so exactly the same API= as
> existing telnetlib)
> because I maintain proprietary .deb (not "Debian packages") = that need
> to be installable without rebuild on Buster, Bookworm & Trixie. >
> I understand that "telnetlib3" / "exscript" are &#= 39;better/newer' API but
> that does not fit the need.
>
> Debian could also benefit from this zombie-telnetlib.
>
> Should it be a native package or one with real upstream on PyPi ?

That was another item we discussed during the 2nd BoF. There are already some projects like these [1][2] and we were considering packaging them
to ease the 3.13 transition.

eamanu said he would make a list of upstream projects we could package, but if you have some time, getting a list of projects would be great.

If we end up packaging these libraries, I think it should be clear that they won't be available for Forky (Debian 14). The last thing we want i= s
to maintain some deprecated zombie-libraries forever in Debian :(

Cheers,

[1]: https://github.com/simonrob/pyasyncore
[2]: https://github.com/tiran/legacycrypt

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