Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!fu-berlin.de!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: Scott Kitterman Newsgroups: linux.debian.maint.python Subject: Re: Suggesting change in DPT policy Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 01:00:01 +0100 Message-ID: References: X-Original-To: debian-python@lists.debian.org X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-python-request@lists.debian.org Tue Feb 27 23:55:16 2024 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.51 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: using cached result; rate: -5.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/21485 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/05C0AB9D-651C-43A0-83CA-01CD31013A94@kitterman.com Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 30 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2024 23:54:01 +0000 X-Original-Message-ID: <05C0AB9D-651C-43A0-83CA-01CD31013A94@kitterman.com> X-Original-References: <80455cbe-cc13-4240-8517-f9ba0512c32e@debian.org> <93E5EE46-6619-4584-B28E-1D4B6A3AB389@kitterman.com> <13029673-f563-4667-9f2a-c5e9e5fb1afe@debian.org> Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.maint.python:15506 On February 27, 2024 11:42:33 PM UTC, Thomas Goirand w= rote: >On 2/27/24 19:32, Scott Kitterman wrote: >> I suspect that packages will be removed from team maintenance as a resu= lt though and I think that's a bad idea=2E > >If a package isn't in the team, any DD can ask for permission from the ma= intainer before an upload=2E So, what's the difference, with a package that= is "is in the Python team", but nobody from the team can upload without pr= ior approval from the current maintainer? It simply doesn't make sense=2E > >So at the end, if packages get "removed from the team", it's a good thing= : it clarifies the situation=2E > >Andreas has been the biggest uploader of packages for many years (by the = number of upload per year), and working a lot on Python stuff=2E It feels w= rong we both fell in the "upload not granted: you should have read the team= 's policy better" mistake, and I do not wish others also receive this kind = of demotivating message anymore=2E > It's self-induced=2E I mean if it's demotivating to have people point out= that you didn't follow the policy, then you can solve that all by yourself= by following the policy=2E If I take your argument to its logical conclus= ion, all of Debian's rules can be demotivating when people ignore them, so = we should get rid of them all so your feelings are safe=2E Scott K