Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!fu-berlin.de!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: Alexandre Detiste Newsgroups: linux.debian.maint.python Subject: Re: Contacting DPT Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2024 18:50:01 +0200 Message-ID: References: X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-python-request@lists.debian.org Fri Jun 14 16:42:25 2024 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.209 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, META_ATTENDEES_DBSPAM1=5, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: using cached result; rate: -5.5 X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCV1o3zdEMODCRPwq77KoE77iDH/HB02pK4UckrL6DZbtiEGKzNQ5WZ7kmkPspS8oGcJ5yOFJ9T9rfJNwBxqNsxbz1ylQZAD5XwWdbstd74= X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yx5+/4VY/NdN/X3u5IS187K4jwR5cXoMwVzMq74kEnAcnFXCbEI iv09SUfVj3/KECnWRsuPJSett57LstHGGsKQlK41SJYLnDCxE1UjsH1eiIOWlPS8D6ndVwQEWn3 5t8XJrF/5njn+rijMsDXvkVKns6g= X-Google-SMTP-Source: AGHT+IGQm9vGNAm2flklzd3wln/xMYBR1SBsyKeDDnft+wV9+5c0s1xHIW14Yrg0NmQpa4o14PzeneYVJTjFKxkc7kE= X-Received: by 2002:a25:df42:0:b0:dca:c369:fac2 with SMTP id 3f1490d57ef6-dff1535459emr3081758276.3.1718383329703; Fri, 14 Jun 2024 09:42:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/21961 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/CADsTwj+rGpVqejDjtFwOhi1VMVSp281ji5dH_axMPNRN0iy6HQ@mail.gmail.com Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 66 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Cc: Andreas Tille , Debian Python , doko@debian.org, piotr@debian.org, stefanor@debian.org X-Original-Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2024 18:41:58 +0200 X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-References: <5306c7c5-0852-4ebe-beee-6e2185e4c8a8@goirand.fr> Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.maint.python:15925 Hi, Le mer. 12 juin 2024 =C3=A0 16:22, Thomas Goirand a =C3= =A9crit : > On 6/6/24 17:40, Andreas Tille wrote: > > - Do you consider the workload of your team equally shared amongst i= ts > > members? > > The team probably lacks organization, and there's no clear enough > strategy for end goals. > > I know we're moving toward getting rid of: > - six > - mock > - nose and unittest2, and zombie-imp, and 2to3, and cython3-legacy and m2r and mistune0 and ... Even only listing all of these on wiki with what they could be replaced with would be good starter. We could rely on the standard transition tracker to see what remains: https://release.debian.org/transitions/ or having those get from FTP-Masters an "oldlibs" overide. I've my own tracker but it's mostly a toy I build to see what could be done with UDD and playing around with matplotlib. An optimal moment to check whether these old dependencies can be removed seems to be when a new upstream is available. (m =3D mock, n=3Dnose, s=3Dsix) $ cat snap androguard m (depends on Java stuff..) backblaze-b2 m n s (huge) elasticsearch-curator m n (depends on new spun out library too I= TP) fabric n (I tried) heudiconv m (attempted uploaded to experime= ntal) mu-editor m (discussion on mailing list about packaging style went nowhere) pagure m s Now I think I could sort this by upstream release date & make an RSS out of it ;-) > but is anyone doing any type of coordination for the work to be done ? I guess people being members of several Teams could give precious help. I don't see myself pledging to join Teams just to remove a handful lines from d/control files, and then be gone forever. > It's been a waaaaay too long. Agree Greetings