Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: Markus Koschany Newsgroups: linux.debian.maint.java Subject: Re: Usefulness of periodic reproducible builds e-mails Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 17:50:03 +0200 Message-ID: References: X-Original-To: "debian-java@lists.debian.org" X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-java-request@lists.debian.org Tue Sep 29 15:42:43 2015 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-12.6 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, FOURLA=0.1, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, PGPSIGNATURE=-5, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: using cached result; rate: -6.1 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="2jIo4RGh2MHaaC9G5chUJQXjunJH8BWXE" X-Sa-Exim-Scanned: No (on richard.fcube.de); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/18710 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/560AB150.9060104@gambaru.de Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 68 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Cc: Reproducible builds folks X-Original-Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 17:42:08 +0200 X-Original-Message-ID: <560AB150.9060104@gambaru.de> X-Original-References: <20150928230515.CADF11ED52@jenkins.debian.net> <20150929140030.GA1995@alice.nomadium.lan> <560AA10C.2080402@gambaru.de> <560AA4A5.5080400@apache.org> Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.maint.java:8396 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --2jIo4RGh2MHaaC9G5chUJQXjunJH8BWXE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am 29.09.2015 um 16:48 schrieb Emmanuel Bourg: > Le 29/09/2015 16:32, Markus Koschany a =C3=A9crit : [...] > I agree the false positive are annoying, but this is understandable > since the system is still in development (the recent addition of > disorderfs caused some troubles for example). Fortunately the > reproducible builds team is very reactive and the issues are solved > quickly. I expect the notifications to stabilize progressively. I understand that everything is still in development. However I don't think a public mailing list is a suitable testbed. My preferred solution would be to make receiving such e-mails opt-in. Everyone who wants to get informed by e-mail may subscribe to this feature. I personally prefer and regularly check DDPO because it is quite, very informative and can be used on demand. The only other option I can think of is to filter pkg-java mails. >> The reports would be most useful if they included only confirmed FTBFS= >> in testing. I know detecting FTBFS is only a by-product of the >> reproducible build effort but those bugs are the most interesting ones= >> for us. >=20 > Actually I tend to prefer the reports in unstable. The reports in > testing are often duplicates of issues already known in unstable, and > sometimes they are already fixed in unstable when they are notified in > testing. If we were to keep the reports for only suite I'd prefer the > unstable reports since it gives a faster feedback on our work. Ok. I could live with unstable as well as long as we agree on one distribution. Markus --2jIo4RGh2MHaaC9G5chUJQXjunJH8BWXE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJWCrFTXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXRBQ0YzRDA4OEVGMzJFREVGNkExQTgzNUZE OUFEMTRCOTUxM0I1MUU0AAoJENmtFLlRO1Hk7aQQAMMrxT6CzAGZ8yffb80bLxrD 3MfSj9hyQRvgm7AKHAMokK+MuGVG6VvQYBVYuTYFCBCiDqxar87j3lL6rX7CPCrT Ey5cLX3KFMRyH/26s/T85+NHMQydSAKcKVhLNoheqJCfja6Ax/1tlQUO3iAWXOfB 5+qyIo+OpTQyhMg2hv1eJhc+kN5jHpJQaZVH5MYAD1CGZqc3EbS1ZhaMo9pJSUoq er/65j8xfae/1nV+xkoBIdpKDwtjdVMQrFR18GZZheAeDTIiVRRBFVxMpbqAox+X vHxC3YC1+aLCoLDm+9eLay6xNFANURVTITV3NodtY3JJs9/rGFacNYbbdJEXL8jd j5YIXBvzxsBDxRSJDTiRfgLG30N5AwHpLgiWf7Obw4yCaL+BpSm6lK/OCFeW4mUi s3y0BhbIxTYEiEHTw7SDc1/Ksij/sGZO4CGjRQTeTN+90EsDoAB+bmE4MMyEaFDr sDSmZNEa7lMH0AYNJdbQq5p4xKmgJBcxXs3Ay5zaNnhtPGZt2/mTXU3GowCciAqv Q/i17I7BbKmRLSbQt+je5Nxr2cY8+RloBb6WldJ7ZzNVWwdBsnk/ZM6W00zDJLRQ S547OzIyzWah/GZxTAEPf1D4LqWKMUmIQjvQlw+4+DdD4/5556K6Vv9yB5yvHgRk Zg3aAcFg54aPeJXZH5y1 =m6q9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --2jIo4RGh2MHaaC9G5chUJQXjunJH8BWXE--