Path: csiph.com!goblin1!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!aioe.org!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: Markus Koschany Newsgroups: linux.debian.maint.java Subject: Usefulness of periodic reproducible builds e-mails Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 16:40:01 +0200 Message-ID: References: X-Original-To: "debian-java@lists.debian.org" X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-java-request@lists.debian.org Tue Sep 29 14:33:04 2015 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-12.6 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, FOURLA=0.1, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, PGPSIGNATURE=-5, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: using cached result; rate:hard: -6.1 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="a8wu02lDDNxVuInbIlcqRLXJPXV23fV53" X-Sa-Exim-Scanned: No (on richard.fcube.de); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/18704 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/560AA10C.2080402@gambaru.de Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 72 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Cc: Reproducible builds folks X-Original-Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 16:32:44 +0200 X-Original-Message-ID: <560AA10C.2080402@gambaru.de> X-Original-References: <20150928230515.CADF11ED52@jenkins.debian.net> <20150929140030.GA1995@alice.nomadium.lan> Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.maint.java:8390 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --a8wu02lDDNxVuInbIlcqRLXJPXV23fV53 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am 29.09.2015 um 16:00 schrieb Miguel Landaeta: > On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 11:05:15PM +0000, Reproducible builds folks wro= te: >> More information on https://reproducible.debian.net/testing/amd64/libi= batis-java, feel free to reply to this email to get more help. >=20 > Hi folks, >=20 > Thank you very much for your helpful periodic email reports about > packages reproducibility. >=20 > However, you should be more careful about false positive FTBFS reports > since in this case the failure came from lack of disk space in the > autobuilder. I would like to take the opportunity to raise the following concern. I support the reproducible builds effort but I think the periodic e-mails to pkg-java are often not useful enough at the moment. There are far too many false-positives. The list should be reserved for discussing bug reports and due the flood of reproducible e-mails it happens that one can miss a bug report. The reports would be most useful if they included only confirmed FTBFS in testing. I know detecting FTBFS is only a by-product of the reproducible build effort but those bugs are the most interesting ones for us. All other issues are plainly visible thanks to DDPO and the corresponding QA pages like https://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=3Dpkg-java-maintainers@lists.al= ioth.debian.org There is even a column for CI/Rep. Thanks Markus --a8wu02lDDNxVuInbIlcqRLXJPXV23fV53 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJWCqEOXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXRBQ0YzRDA4OEVGMzJFREVGNkExQTgzNUZE OUFEMTRCOTUxM0I1MUU0AAoJENmtFLlRO1HkKcMP/RxS630v+BkNcToCZtiyVxgN OBq/IvAoxulQJ/crd9cKiqrenegMRv3I1dLURjWQN06m0wY+y7gGx3V+a3Cy99ZX EMkSiVDsvNCUDhCO1M+pQUh5Kczku9WIcrW+OnQfKI3RGiVehov7y3qjTpi+HB14 Y9tjOgCxb5uLg8k/YDoHWh/fMESHjBI/uEuAGNVX+lYayBdowYS4ejq9qxKlW5Z+ PNYq9++sK+0yooVLqU8SYPU0XDw1UnI2ef6xV3SuEmpOo4S8sjG98nw7m6OzQJhU Zah2ShW/n2x+dE9/tv9TfrtJ2Xgt5GVu0Hi3xitjQLnDE9SJ1/Vy8/HZfiMtv5An tLfGdtymTyeTNSuRQ1+yukQoeZZEhaWh4iNHROo6vLyCZOkBmuNIxJKB3M5abT8C vezBje62B0d6H66AWvVTKqlY9SWdprexfvtiHD92LG7NMY2xjEo4p9MQBHfo218H ZAh0XCQ/89YWw3mo4/PeHkDL5XILzZd7Iqz1rdIahjEPw/ak7e1bts5e5Utg3gB4 lheX0OFH/ByLF8Cx1FSax4swJ0e2d7Rm8KzT57Uom/6KLDhO3d23qx2LeesX3bPl u2AP6pcI/qr9rtzmi+l0H/bWMP7rW84DpnsryeLqVMTJa+suPpM/IgAxPmPzmrji z2mxDYMkISCAicmMXKpn =jEvC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --a8wu02lDDNxVuInbIlcqRLXJPXV23fV53--