Path: csiph.com!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!news.mixmin.net!aioe.org!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: Markus Koschany Newsgroups: linux.debian.maint.java Subject: Re: About Jenkins in Debian Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 22:40:02 +0100 Message-ID: References: X-Original-To: debian-java@lists.debian.org X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-java-request@lists.debian.org Mon Jan 11 21:34:46 2016 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-12 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, PGPSIGNATURE=-5, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: using cached result; rate:hard: -5 X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/38.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="3RVirGqHvp57hIMJAadhtFqPIMU018Ae0" X-Sa-Exim-Scanned: No (on richard.fcube.de); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19033 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/56941FE5.5010208@debian.org Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 71 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 22:34:29 +0100 X-Original-Message-ID: <56941FE5.5010208@debian.org> X-Original-References: <5693C485.3030905@apache.org> <5693CFA2.7080109@debian.org> <56941282.2030502@apache.org> Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.maint.java:8713 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --3RVirGqHvp57hIMJAadhtFqPIMU018Ae0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am 11.01.2016 um 21:37 schrieb Emmanuel Bourg: > Le 11/01/2016 16:52, Markus Koschany a =C3=A9crit : >=20 >> I presume >> jenkins-cli and jenkins-slave would be affected by the same short thre= e >> month support release cycle. >=20 > jenkins-cli consists in only 9 classes and requires 4 dependencies > (commons-codec, jenkins-remoting, localizer and trilead-ssh2. It doesn'= t > rely on jenkins-core). The code is rather stable and shouldn't be > difficult to maintain. >=20 > jenkins-slave doesn't contain any code, it's just a script downloading = a > jar from a Jenkins installation and turning it into a daemon. >=20 > I'm not a user of these packages, so I won't push to keep them if nobod= y > supports the idea. But I can see their technical merits over the > upstream package (better system integration with manpages, bash > completion, proper daemon and log rotation). At the moment I am not a user of Jenkins either but of course I would rather like to see all the sources properly packaged in Debian. This sounds like maintaining them would be doable, even in stable. However my point is, if we remove Jenkins from Debian we should cease to support it completely and make it clear that upstream is fully responsible for all system integration. Otherwise users would justifiably expect that we provide at least some support but without a real dedicated maintainer this would be doubtful. I believe we should either answer their expectations or do nothing at all. Markus --3RVirGqHvp57hIMJAadhtFqPIMU018Ae0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJWlB/lXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXRBQ0YzRDA4OEVGMzJFREVGNkExQTgzNUZE OUFEMTRCOTUxM0I1MUU0AAoJENmtFLlRO1HkmgcP/jGxhUgBxsz9gzyDAtlySlE0 s0LC5Esc41e/P216y7+rJ19Ln1y/NrWZ1Aw82s+BnLTfv94E/+v81kuMEdRU7nGr xck42IVvMl39TfjVPVu+e1g4SWkBdlE71Epx7CQ9NDmJ8rn2xLd/G+Kn2K1fb2E4 iRAoYMbPzh7Xmv3pX2UFxzo1ArqCBj2WCdenMlb3xwtauBdQ3LRMlboyW7MRu4gm dVJRmhjiVeYVDZXqJsspNV/7EF4tyH4grA0opIjxDzpC6atxQLQrJ0w9d0sYbp/E dsrF1JY7jVY3r2XGd9foAYWMQUiROqTutixstufaBZ1z5sGCGIlb6azzjAzHOwvn 7Yj7ZMYIzYUsiTLc5MHP0MQArO0KIY+lRu3ddtGafKC7U7KkWQIhJ7WJRqqp1f4X OXliXlj2xYKjMBo9XULAJLTZaXOZmmsaEPdHhhWzzYAtL/p+6Tt644qhF0pAqnTr L/2bwBE9NRH0YzQwyU6VJaz9UcJELthFntqOAB9nL4ujUsNGwRhkCtOIr7lVG16G M18o9k4/RhJYCnIiDdAf6g0do2Bn3N9cbK3+2GgIX0JN2N8n8n+btxgcud3lsAHL wlvbxB8lstcstlTiH4t7iebGICCxO+cuhBFbVlNunwtqRi584ytVdzGaFGCYDbiA QYDYVV/JXIyLd5/Uyh2Z =vxf4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --3RVirGqHvp57hIMJAadhtFqPIMU018Ae0--