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Re: Java team IRC channel

From Jérôme Charaoui <jerome@riseup.net>
Newsgroups linux.debian.maint.java
Subject Re: Java team IRC channel
Date 2025-07-22 20:30 +0200
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Hi Emmanuel,

Le 2025-07-22 à 12 h 25, Emmanuel Bourg a écrit :
> Hi Jérôme,
> 
> On 19/07/2025 11:36, Jérôme Charaoui wrote:
> 
>> Does that work for everyone?
> 
> I'm the one who implemented IRC notifications on debian-java a few years 
> ago, based on the work done for other Debian channels at this time. I 
> personally find it interesting to have push notifications on the 
> channel, because it can trigger discussions/reviews about the changes 
> being done and bring more life to a mostly dormant channel.

Right, I think the concern for keeping the channel alive a valid point. 
However before changing things up again I'd like to try and see how 
things go. Let's review this at a future java-team meeting that we 
agreed to hold on a regular basis! :)

> Some time later we started getting CI/pipeline notifications through the 
> same mechanism, and it became way to verbose in my opinion.

Indeed. But those CI notification were the default in the 
"setup-salsa-repository" script since it creation. I think there are 
just more packages that enabled CI pipelines in the meantime.

> I think we should keep the notifications, but only for pushes (ideally 
> one line per branch pushed, not one line per commit). We could also 
> filter the notifications related to the pristine-tar branch. And CI/ 
> pipeline notifications should be blocked (or moved to another channel 
> nobody will follow).

In GitLab, each commit pushed to a tree is considered a "push event", so 
it's not possible to generate a single notification for a single "git 
push" command used by a repo maintainer (unless a single commit is 
sent). This is why for example when a rebased branch is pushed, there 
can be many commit notifications.

> I'm not on IRC these days, so this is merely a recommendation, feel free 
> to adjust the configuration as you like.

Thanks! Don't hesitate to visit sometime :)

-- Jérôme

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  Re: Java team IRC channel tony mancill <tmancill@debian.org> - 2025-07-21 17:00 +0200
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