Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!panix!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!fu-berlin.de!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: Helmar Gerloni Newsgroups: linux.debian.devel.mentors,linux.debian.maint.java Subject: Re: New upstream version 1.6.6 of tuxguitar available on salsa Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2025 20:20:02 +0100 Message-ID: References: X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-mentors-request@lists.debian.org Mon Jan 6 19:12:34 2025 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.196 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, MD5_SHA1_SUM=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_CERTIFIED_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: NOT_IN_SBL_XBL_SPAMHAUS=-1.5 CL_IP_EQ_HELO_IP=-2 (check from: .gerloni. - helo: .mout.kundenserver. - helo-domain: .kundenserver.) 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Januar 2025, 02:56:15 CET schrieben Sie: > On Fri, 03 Jan 2025 23:47:15 +0100, Helmar Gerloni wrote: > > > I just uploaded version 1.6.6 to salsa: > > https://salsa.debian.org/helger/tuxguitar > > Maybe you can push this new version into Sid? > > It looks like the master branch is updated but the upstream and > pristine-tar branches are still at 1.6.4. > > So no, I can't (easily) build and upload the package right now, sorry > :) Sorry, I overlooked the upstream and pristine-tar branches. Since Tony wil= l take over the package from mentors, I didn't spend more time on that. > > > What's a bit sad is that tuxguitar doesn't build reproducibly. > > I did not find the time yet to look into this, sorry. > > Alright :) The reprotest on Salsa is now successful, so the problem seems to have dis= appeared somehow: https://salsa.debian.org/helger/tuxguitar/-/jobs/6871787 > > > And on a more general note: You constructed this as a QA upload, but > > > you seem to be the de facto maintainer of the package :) Also the > > > package is still within the Debian Java Team on salsa, altough it's > > > officially orphaned. -- Maybe it's about time to fix this mess one > > > way or another :) > > I'm not sure how I can help here. I'm trying my best to create an > > acceptable Debian package, but I'm not an official DM. > > You don't need to be a DM to maintain a package. Yes, Debian in > general and Debian terminology in particular are complicated. > > * A maintainer is the person who maintains a package. (Whether they can > upload it themselves or need a sponsor/Debian Developer/person with > upload rights). > * A Debian Maintainer (DM) is a person who maintains (a) package(s) and = is > allowed to upload this/these package(s). DM permissions can be > granted by DDs after someone maintains a package for some times > successfully. > * A Debian Developer (DD) is a Debian project member, either with or wit= hout > upload rights, and the first group can upload any package. > > > What I wanted to say with "this mess" is: > - tuxguitar was maintained within the Debian Java Team until some > years ago, until #1013777 / > 76fd0206abe7283411825e8ff18d209b5bbcd348: > #v+ > --- a/debian/control > +++ b/debian/control > @@ -1,7 +1,5 @@ > Source: tuxguitar > -Maintainer: Debian Java Maintainers > -Uploaders: Philippe Coval , > - tony mancill > +Maintainer: Debian QA Group > Section: sound > Priority: optional > Build-Depends: ant, > > #v- > because Philippe Coval was inactive for quite some time. > - So currently tuxguitar is officially unmaintained but de facto you > are maintaining it. So the status should be changed :) > - Which means for the package: You should be the maintainer! And > there are 2 options to do this: > - Either you adopt it, i.e. change #1013777 from O to ITA, set > yourself as Maintainer in d/control, and work in > https://salsa.debian.org/helger/tuxguitar (or in the debian > namespace) and seek sponsors for the future; or > - second option, the package is maintained within the Java team > again, where the repo still exists; which means (the same BTS > dance +) setting Maintainer back to "Debian Java Maintainers" and > Uploaders to you, work from the debian-java repo (and find sponsors > within the team, which could be tmancill (at least I think so :)) > or me (not really a team member but I have a sweet spot for > tuxguitar). Nice to hear ;-) > - Personally I prefer the second option, but I'm not really familiar > with the current written or informal policies in the Java team > about accepting new members etc. -- Maybe you could just request > membership on salsa for the java-team and work within > https://salsa.debian.org/java-team/tuxguitar.git > > Any comments from active Debian Java members welcome! Since Tony will sponsor this upload, I currently would not take any action= . Regards, Helmar.