Path: csiph.com!tncsrv06.tnetconsulting.net!newsfeed.endofthelinebbs.com!news.corradoroberto.it!gothmog.csi.it!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: gregor herrmann Newsgroups: linux.debian.maint.java Subject: Re: New upstream version 1.6.6 of tuxguitar available on salsa Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2025 03:20:01 +0100 Message-ID: References: X-Original-To: Helmar Gerloni X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-java-request@lists.debian.org Mon Jan 6 02:16:09 2025 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-118.448 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.34, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FOURLA=0.1, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, MD5_SHA1_SUM=-1, PGPSIGNATURE=-5, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_CERTIFIED_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, USER_IN_DKIM_WELCOMELIST=-0.01, USER_IN_DKIM_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: using cached result; rate:hard: -3.5 X-Greylist: delayed 1139 seconds by postgrey-1.36 at bendel; Mon, 06 Jan 2025 02:15:55 UTC Mail-Followup-To: Helmar Gerloni , debian-java@lists.debian.org, tmancill@debian.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Face: -kg'V!M2hYTiiEt:oj$rToa+c^7N.t}]V^j}|%+]%3J&tOm^9mc^1-#9o=\8VJpV7b~nxIM!qu>r_:w\EtWQA01;$jp>,cgp9EWV:i9B]LCgiNn\jA=un9d-ZcRzyq~9vYUf*tx9B}de^fH5Q(d(_N"0WXs%Jh!~.*g.iC=bSTqL:/EE0Y~\g_QCvwS6=cv]$tB7z archive/latest/23584 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/Z3s4Pxs66h1leDUs@jadzia.comodo.priv.at Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 121 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Cc: debian-java@lists.debian.org, tmancill@debian.org X-Original-Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2025 02:56:15 +0100 X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-References: <2194044.irdbgypaU6@tuxmobil-vm> <3686190.QJadu78ljV@tuxmobil-vm> Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.maint.java:12877 ------------=_1736128576-21030-90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Fri, 03 Jan 2025 23:47:15 +0100, Helmar Gerloni wrote: > I just uploaded version 1.6.6 to salsa: > https://salsa.debian.org/helger/tuxguitar > Maybe you can push this new version into Sid? It looks like the master branch is updated but the upstream and pristine-tar branches are still at 1.6.4. So no, I can't (easily) build and upload the package right now, sorry :) > > What's a bit sad is that tuxguitar doesn't build reproducibly. > I did not find the time yet to look into this, sorry. Alright :) > > And on a more general note: You constructed this as a QA upload, but > > you seem to be the de facto maintainer of the package :) Also the > > package is still within the Debian Java Team on salsa, altough it's > > officially orphaned. -- Maybe it's about time to fix this mess one > > way or another :) > I'm not sure how I can help here. I'm trying my best to create an > acceptable Debian package, but I'm not an official DM. You don't need to be a DM to maintain a package. Yes, Debian in general and Debian terminology in particular are complicated. * A maintainer is the person who maintains a package. (Whether they can upload it themselves or need a sponsor/Debian Developer/person with upload rights). * A Debian Maintainer (DM) is a person who maintains (a) package(s) and is allowed to upload this/these package(s). DM permissions can be granted by DDs after someone maintains a package for some times successfully. * A Debian Developer (DD) is a Debian project member, either with or without upload rights, and the first group can upload any package. What I wanted to say with "this mess" is: - tuxguitar was maintained within the Debian Java Team until some years ago, until #1013777 / 76fd0206abe7283411825e8ff18d209b5bbcd348: #v+ --- a/debian/control +++ b/debian/control @@ -1,7 +1,5 @@ Source: tuxguitar -Maintainer: Debian Java Maintainers -Uploaders: Philippe Coval , - tony mancill +Maintainer: Debian QA Group Section: sound Priority: optional Build-Depends: ant, #v- because Philippe Coval was inactive for quite some time. - So currently tuxguitar is officially unmaintained but de facto you are maintaining it. So the status should be changed :) - Which means for the package: You should be the maintainer! And there are 2 options to do this: - Either you adopt it, i.e. change #1013777 from O to ITA, set yourself as Maintainer in d/control, and work in https://salsa.debian.org/helger/tuxguitar (or in the debian namespace) and seek sponsors for the future; or - second option, the package is maintained within the Java team again, where the repo still exists; which means (the same BTS dance +) setting Maintainer back to "Debian Java Maintainers" and Uploaders to you, work from the debian-java repo (and find sponsors within the team, which could be tmancill (at least I think so :)) or me (not really a team member but I have a sweet spot for tuxguitar). - Personally I prefer the second option, but I'm not really familiar with the current written or informal policies in the Java team about accepting new members etc. -- Maybe you could just request membership on salsa for the java-team and work within https://salsa.debian.org/java-team/tuxguitar.git Any comments from active Debian Java members welcome! 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