Path: csiph.com!news.samoylyk.net!gothmog.csi.it!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: Emmanuel Bourg Newsgroups: linux.debian.maint.java Subject: Re: gradle reboot Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2024 11:50:01 +0100 Message-ID: References: X-Original-To: debian-java@lists.debian.org X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-java-request@lists.debian.org Fri Nov 29 10:42:19 2024 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.584 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, NICE_REPLY_A=-2.588, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_CERTIFIED_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: using cached result; rate: -5.5 Authentication-Results: apache.org; auth=none MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.15.1 Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/23544 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/38d246ff-fac0-e6fd-d602-55f3a12e9751@apache.org Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 17 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2024 11:42:00 +0100 X-Original-Message-ID: <38d246ff-fac0-e6fd-d602-55f3a12e9751@apache.org> X-Original-References: <78a8c1b6-c034-7e27-a0fa-9558adfcdfa9@free.fr> <1f8b8ba84612d8e1025cd32ef04c229936fdd117.camel@debian.org> Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.maint.java:12837 Le 26/11/2024 à 14:09, Markus Koschany a écrit : > I discarded the idea to upgrade Gradle to 6.x or even newer releases because > the main problem with Gradle for Debian is the complex interaction between its > (build)-dependencies. Since we only support one version of a library in > general, you will quickly reach a point where you are stuck in a loop between > upgrading existing Debian packages, then fixing broken reverse-dependencies, > and then moving on to build Gradle offline. And for me those iterations never > seemed to end. Markus raises a good point, I would add that if there is a risk at some point of breaking the existing packages after upgrading a dependency, then introducing a new package for the updated dependency is the way to go. We can deduplicate the dependencies later when the transition to the newer Gradle is complete. Emmanuel Bourg