Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: Vladimir Petko Newsgroups: linux.debian.maint.java Subject: Re: Updating source/target level for Java 21 compatibility to 8 Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2023 04:20:01 +0200 Message-ID: References: X-Original-To: Emmanuel Bourg X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-java-request@lists.debian.org Mon Sep 25 02:18:10 2023 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.501 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: using cached result; rate: -5.5 X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxjU5C9d2aOzBtV7Uem1esw213Ri2JUsZhdYlLt8QNGEgkbEX0A uagEfv5WeJGB74y+TZY67bs7+SFebzy0U+CBa2MyAz6yd+NEOqpBSwBvHFizzwXb7TJ2pd8/6tJ wirQST5VrWCSPmety5e+uh7EPGRx1mQ0wfCqO8fnvTWU0VGSSvIcPox3lFE5165Yke9oT X-Received: by 2002:a25:361a:0:b0:d7a:f5c7:5ac2 with SMTP id d26-20020a25361a000000b00d7af5c75ac2mr2755360yba.2.1695608261548; Sun, 24 Sep 2023 19:17:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-SMTP-Source: AGHT+IGCrgE0IFWlNl23HJhgrwUNemASq1jAkAiGw238HNam1T5+zOcOasqU3dwPyTKs3AKtfXmTJGlGwtTpXLaFIBQ= X-Received: by 2002:a25:361a:0:b0:d7a:f5c7:5ac2 with SMTP id d26-20020a25361a000000b00d7af5c75ac2mr2755350yba.2.1695608261199; Sun, 24 Sep 2023 19:17:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/23379 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/CALFf3kcY+MwaUjTj7hC49PYYWd4SZSfj+SibgxnCbkmnqDstoA@mail.gmail.com Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 89 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Cc: debian-java@lists.debian.org X-Original-Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2023 15:17:30 +1300 X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-References: <6a078d6bed965e90952d7cae31a28610@apache.org> Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.maint.java:12697 Hi, I have prepared a script[1] to report the obvious failures here[2]. I wonder if I should send a mass bug filing email to debian-devel mailing list before running it? Best Regards, Vladimir. [1] https://git.launchpad.net/~vpa1977/+git/default-java21/tree/report-all.= sh?h=3Dmain [2] https://git.launchpad.net/~vpa1977/+git/default-java21/tree/?h=3Dmain On Fri, Sep 15, 2023 at 9:54=E2=80=AFAM Vladimir Petko wrote: > > Hi, > > >For the previous Java migrations I started with a mass rebuild and then > filling a bug report for each broken package. > Thank you!!! I will follow the suite then - in addition to hardcoded > targets, there are about 93 packages with various compile errors > including javadoc issues. > > >Interesting idea. Where would that variable be declared? In debhelper? > >Will the maintainers agree? > > Yes, it has to be in the common code, e.g. debhelper, but adding > something specific to Java to it might not be a good solution. > > >As a side note, bumping the source/target level isn't always the best > solution.These packages are a > recurrent source of issues when migrating to more recent JDKs, and they > are almost never used. > > Maybe I can raise bugs for those and then the decision can be made on > a case by case basis? > > Best Regards, > Vladimir. > > On Fri, Sep 15, 2023 at 1:52=E2=80=AFAM Emmanuel Bourg wrote: > > > > Le 2023-09-14 01:03, Vladimir Petko a =C3=A9crit : > > > > > Java 21 removes source/target compatibility level 7. Some packages (8= 0 > > > in total as per the attached list) have it specified in rules or > > > Makefiles. > > > I was wondering if it is okay to raise a single bug to update them an= d > > > submit the changes as pull requests on Salsa. > > > > For the previous Java migrations I started with a mass rebuild and then > > filling a bug report for each broken package. The reports had a user ta= g > > to be able to follow the progress (and document the main issues > > encountered). > > > > Here is for example the bug list for the migration to Java 17: > > > > > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?tag=3Ddefault-java17;user= s=3Ddebian-java@lists.debian.org > > > > Personally I find it satisfying to see the list shrinking over time, > > I also hoped that it would entice new contributors to join the migratio= n > > effort (but it barely materialized, if at all). But as long as the work > > is done it doesn't really matter how it is organized. > > > > > > > Also, we could add a DEB_ variable to specify the minimal supported > > > level. The variable will allow us to avoid repeating this work in the > > > future, but I am not sure what is the best way to provide it. > > > > Interesting idea. Where would that variable be declared? In debhelper? > > Will the maintainers agree? > > > > As a side note, bumping the source/target level isn't always the best > > solution. For example olap4j breaks when building the Javadoc, in this > > case I recommend scrapping the -java-doc package. These packages are a > > recurrent source of issues when migrating to more recent JDKs, and they > > are almost never used. > > > > Emmanuel Bourg > >